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Hate Group Hoax?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Hate Group Hoax? Reply with quote

The New York Times headline seems a candidate for bottom story of the day:
"Hate Groups Mostly Quiet in Election":

So stands the state of organized racism in 2008, paralyzed
and at a crossroads in what would presumably be a pressing
moment of action--the possibility that Senator Barack Obama
will become the first black president--but has so far not
been. . . .

"What we really haven't seen is white supremacists really
rallying over an Obama presidency," said Mark Potok, the
director of intelligence at the Southern Poverty Law Center,
which tracks hate groups. "Hate groups are in a more or less
stunned position right now; they haven't been able to figure
out how to proceed just yet."

Could this be because "hate groups" are something of an urban legend?
Obviously white supremacists exist, but the Times was able to find only one to
interview: the delightfully named Bill White, head of the American National
Socialist Workers Party.

The report details the recent activities of a few other putative white
supremacists, although they do not seem all that devoted to their putative
ideology. The notorious David Duke, the Times reports, "has, in fact, written
positively about the prospect of Mr. Obama's being elected," and he is not
alone:

In one sign of shifting mores, James Knowles, a former Ku Klux
Klan member who was convicted in a 1981 lynching, said in a
Discovery Channel documentary by Ted Koppel that Mr. Obama was
a potentially acceptable candidate. "People need to vote for
him because of his ideas and the veracity that he displays in
what he does, and not because he's African-American," Mr.
Knowles said.

We live in an era in which not only is a black man heavily favored to become
the next president of the United States, but former Ku Klux Klan members use
the term "African-American." It seems reasonable to surmise that hate groups
have been more than "stunned," as the Southern Poverty Law Center's Mark Potok
says. They have been all but eradicated.

So why does anyone pretend otherwise? Well, cui bono? Mark Potok for one, who
gets paid to "track" these groups. If they no longer exist, neither does his
job. Also Barack Obama pals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, as blogger
Steve Bartin notes, have a new book coming out bearing the odd title "Race
Course Against White Supremacy." The belief that white supremacy remains a
significant force in American life also entails psychic and political rewards
for liberal Democrats, who get to feel morally superior to putatively bigoted
GOP voters and scare blacks into remaining in the Democratic fold.

Meanwhile, Lewis Diuguid of the Kansas City Star claims that "socialist" is
actually "an old code word for black." Which must mean that the American
National Socialist Workers Party is actually headed by Bill Black.



--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hate Group Hoax? Reply with quote

"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:s7KdnaDb0LEqM5zUnZ2dnUVZ_oDinZ2d@giganews.com...
Quote:
The New York Times headline seems a candidate for bottom story of the day:
"Hate Groups Mostly Quiet in Election":

So stands the state of organized racism in 2008, paralyzed
and at a crossroads in what would presumably be a pressing
moment of action--the possibility that Senator Barack Obama
will become the first black president--but has so far not
been. . . .

Good ol zionist/jews/israelis starting the propaganda stirring.


Quote:

"What we really haven't seen is white supremacists really
rallying over an Obama presidency," said Mark Potok, the
director of intelligence at the Southern Poverty Law Center,
which tracks hate groups. "Hate groups are in a more or less
stunned position right now; they haven't been able to figure
out how to proceed just yet."

Could this be because "hate groups" are something of an urban legend?
Obviously white supremacists exist, but the Times was able to find only
one to
interview: the delightfully named Bill White, head of the American
National
Socialist Workers Party.

The report details the recent activities of a few other putative white
supremacists, although they do not seem all that devoted to their putative
ideology. The notorious David Duke, the Times reports, "has, in fact,
written
positively about the prospect of Mr. Obama's being elected," and he is not
alone:

Because is not a white supremacist, just like the other groups has just been
labelled that because he found the holocaust story spread by jews
unbelievable.

And this guy is just writing for his new party the Repubs.

Also shows the danger of listening to the BS constantly spread in support
the holacaust exxagerations.

Then used like this to labelgroups that simply find the jewish control of
American media in discussion of any matter that concerns jewish /israeli
anti American sentiment and or honest criticism of astrocities in israel.
the killing of Rachel Corrie a non Jewish American who was killed by the
IDF by being run down by a bulldozer,



and the driver then driving past the grieving peace vo;unteers with a smirk
on his face.



And apparently Christian america along with Christian Americans have not had
a word to say.

Just compare the difference below.



http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/

One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion?? For killing
a non jewish american? And gets to smirk about it?



http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1993/051693.htm

Compounding the duplicity swirling around the case was the jurors'
remarkable verdict: Mr. Nelson was indeed guilty of depriving his victim of
his civil rights by stabbing him - but not by killing him. Thus, instead of
a possible life sentence, the murderer, with credit for time served, may be
a free man in a matter of months.



http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/3dayriot.html

It is thus with intense interest that we watch as a federal jury in Brooklyn
hears the case of United States vs. Lemrick Nelson, Jr. and Charles Price --
respectively, the accused killer of Yankel Rosenbaum, and the man charged
with inciting the mob that pursued Rosenbaum. As Coalition goes to press,
the trial has finally begun and the prosecution is presenting powerful
evidence against the two defendants



http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/





1
2 Kidnap and torture
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11314.htm



Australia +
http://www.cpa.org.au/

http://www.mindszenty.org/report/1998/feb98/feb98.html

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF

http://tinyurl.com/zjta4

http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/

http://tinyurl.com/nj8he
http://tinyurl.com/rb8pa
http://tinyurl.com/o4gar

http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/smallestminority/Communism.gif

http://www.bushmeat.net/
http://tinyurl.com/obtv8


http://www.nafcash.com/

Lest you think there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust

NAFCASH TM is offering a $250,000.00 REWARD

For locating JUST ONE of the alleged "HUGE MASS GRAVES" of Treblinka

NAFCASH TM presents

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You must scientifically - forensically prove the grave's EXACT location,
its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density.

The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged mass
murder.

JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUST ONE PERCENT!



Quote:
It wouldn't be the first time Zionist Jews launched a mass-murder,
false -(blame-it-on-the-Arabs)- flag attack against Americans and then
have the crime covered-up and censored at the highest level of our
Zionist Occupied United States government.

Israel's False Flag Attack on the USS Liberty, 1967
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/

========== excerpt ==============
President Johnson went on television and announced to the American
people that TEN sailors were killed in the "six minute accidental"
attack. Sailors were ordered not to discuss the incident with ANYONE
under threat of court-martial. We waited for the investigation... and
for the explanations and the answers. Why did Israel attack the ship?
Why did the U. S. Government turn its back on the crew members? The
answers never came.

The Israel Lobby John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html


Quote:

In one sign of shifting mores, James Knowles, a former Ku Klux
Klan member who was convicted in a 1981 lynching, said in a
Discovery Channel documentary by Ted Koppel that Mr. Obama was
a potentially acceptable candidate. "People need to vote for
him because of his ideas and the veracity that he displays in
what he does, and not because he's African-American," Mr.
Knowles said.

We live in an era in which not only is a black man heavily favored to
become
the next president of the United States, but former Ku Klux Klan members
use
the term "African-American." It seems reasonable to surmise that hate
groups
have been more than "stunned," as the Southern Poverty Law Center's Mark
Potok
says. They have been all but eradicated.

So why does anyone pretend otherwise? Well, cui bono? Mark Potok for one,
who
gets paid to "track" these groups. If they no longer exist, neither does
his
job. Also Barack Obama pals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, as
blogger
Steve Bartin notes, have a new book coming out bearing the odd title "Race
Course Against White Supremacy." The belief that white supremacy remains a
significant force in American life also entails psychic and political
rewards
for liberal Democrats, who get to feel morally superior to putatively
bigoted
GOP voters and scare blacks into remaining in the Democratic fold.

Meanwhile, Lewis Diuguid of the Kansas City Star claims that "socialist"
is
actually "an old code word for black." Which must mean that the American
National Socialist Workers Party is actually headed by Bill Black.



--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hate Group Hoax? Reply with quote

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:15:22 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

Quote:
The New York Times headline seems a candidate for bottom story of the day:
"Hate Groups Mostly Quiet in Election":

So stands the state of organized racism in 2008, paralyzed
and at a crossroads in what would presumably be a pressing
moment of action--the possibility that Senator Barack Obama
will become the first black president--but has so far not
been. . . .

"What we really haven't seen is white supremacists really
rallying over an Obama presidency," said Mark Potok, the
director of intelligence at the Southern Poverty Law Center,
which tracks hate groups. "Hate groups are in a more or less
stunned position right now; they haven't been able to figure
out how to proceed just yet."

Could this be because "hate groups" are something of an urban legend?
Obviously white supremacists exist, but the Times was able to find only one to
interview: the delightfully named Bill White, head of the American National
Socialist Workers Party.

The report details the recent activities of a few other putative white
supremacists, although they do not seem all that devoted to their putative
ideology. The notorious David Duke, the Times reports, "has, in fact, written
positively about the prospect of Mr. Obama's being elected," and he is not
alone:

In one sign of shifting mores, James Knowles, a former Ku Klux
Klan member who was convicted in a 1981 lynching, said in a
Discovery Channel documentary by Ted Koppel that Mr. Obama was
a potentially acceptable candidate. "People need to vote for
him because of his ideas and the veracity that he displays in
what he does, and not because he's African-American," Mr.
Knowles said.

We live in an era in which not only is a black man heavily favored to become
the next president of the United States, but former Ku Klux Klan members use
the term "African-American." It seems reasonable to surmise that hate groups
have been more than "stunned," as the Southern Poverty Law Center's Mark Potok
says. They have been all but eradicated.

So why does anyone pretend otherwise? Well, cui bono? Mark Potok for one, who
gets paid to "track" these groups. If they no longer exist, neither does his
job. Also Barack Obama pals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, as blogger
Steve Bartin notes, have a new book coming out bearing the odd title "Race
Course Against White Supremacy." The belief that white supremacy remains a
significant force in American life also entails psychic and political rewards
for liberal Democrats, who get to feel morally superior to putatively bigoted
GOP voters and scare blacks into remaining in the Democratic fold.

Meanwhile, Lewis Diuguid of the Kansas City Star claims that "socialist" is
actually "an old code word for black." Which must mean that the American
National Socialist Workers Party is actually headed by Bill Black.


Good post, good read, right time, just what we need.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Hate Group Hoax? Reply with quote

A month ago, we noted a New York Times story titled "Hate Groups Mostly Quiet
in Election." If you believe what you read in the Chicago Tribune, everything
has changed:

Barely three weeks after Americans elected their first black
president amid a wave of interracial good feeling, a spasm
of noose hangings, racist graffiti, vandalism and death threats
is convulsing dozens of towns across the country as white
extremists lash out at the new political order.

More than 200 hate-related incidents, including cross-burnings,
assassination betting pools and effigies of President-elect
Barack Obama, have been reported so far, according to law-enforcement
authorities and the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors
hate groups. Racist Web sites are boasting that their servers are
crashing under the weight of exponential increases in page views.

Even more ominously, America's most potent symbol of racial
hatred--the Ku Klux Klan--has begun to reassert itself, emerging
from decades of disorganization and obscurity in a spate of recent
violence.

Can it really be the case that hate groups were dormant a month ago but were
suddenly unleashed by Barack Obama's victory? We very much doubt it. The
Tribune story seems pretty thin to us, noting that "the FBI, which tracks hate
crimes across the country, has no figures yet for 2008."

Even Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center--a group whose purpose is
to "track hate groups"--is equivocal: "I think we're in a worrying situation
right now, a perfect storm of conditions coming together that could easily
favor the continued growth of these groups."

And the Trib's evidence of a Klan resurgence? Klansmen in Louisiana allegedly
murdered a Tulsa, Okla., woman. But this was not a racial killing. Authorities
say the victim "had journeyed to the group's remote campsite" and was slain
"when she tried to change her mind about joining the group." Obviously a
horrible (alleged) crime, but it doesn't exactly bespeak a powerful group
effectively terrorizing innocent people.

The Tribune also offers this anecdote:

In the small Louisiana town of Angie, 58-year-old Judy Robinson
decided to place an Obama campaign sign outside her home a few
weeks before the election. On the morning after Halloween, she
awoke to find the words "KKK" and "white power" spray-painted
around her yard.

"I thought all that KKK stuff was in the past," said Robinson,
an African-American home health-care worker. "But now I look
at people and think, 'Could he be Klan?' Suddenly I'm feeling
like my town is hostile territory."

Appalling behavior, to be sure--but is there any reason to think it was really
the Klan and not just youthful local malefactors?



--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
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