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Klaus Schadenfreude
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:

Quote:

Go look for it asshole. The Federal Reserve has a website with the data.
The URL ends in .gov.

Its real information and it proves that the prime rate hit 21.5% under
reagon, not carter. Of course maybe you are too fucking stupid to figure
out that reagon was president in 1981. Not Carter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest
rate in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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Klaus Schadenfreude
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:

Quote:


If I post it, will you admit you are a stupid ass and stop boring us with
your nonsense and drivel? -->Because it will prove you are one stupid
ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest
rate in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:

Quote:


Sorry lifer asshole but THE FEDERAL RESERVE website, the one that uses
.gov on the end of the URL --> states that the prime rate of 21.5% ocurred
in Aug. 1981 --> that put it under reagon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest
rate in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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"...the record 21.5% attained during the Carter Administration."
-TIME magazine, August 30, 1982

========================================================

"The prime rate kept racing upward, hitting a record 21.5% in December
1980."
-TIME magazine, June 15, 1987

========================================================

"While the prime rate has indeed dropped from a Carter presidency high
of 21.5%..."
-TIME magazine, May 10, 1982



Looks like you're lying............... AGAIN!!!! [chuckle]

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

This is your chance to prove me wrong goober. Show us the Fed Prime rate
for Augest 1981. Show us they don't report 21.5%










In <5kt7b4tu6c4bjfvikcjsffvute6lbkcc46@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:28 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:


Quote:
In <qgv6b4drtbpie14hm8vluiiresu23kectt@4ax.com>, on 08/25/2008
at 08:53 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:



Sorry asshole but the ---> Federal Reserve <--- data proves me right and
you wrong.

What data? You failed to cite any.

You can't FIND it, can you, ignoramus? [chuckle]

How many lies will you be up to be the end of the month, I wonder?




You have lied goober. I'm not playing yoru troll game. Look at Aug
1981. The prime rate was 21.5 %.

You're a liar. Almost everything you say is a lie. You quote figures and
"facts" but you provide no source, ergo, it is assumed you are lying.

That's because I've already caught you in several lies, to wit:

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President." LIE 6 "I
never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done" LIE 15
"LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: redwings lifer lies again (e: Markets have performed muc Reply with quote

This is your chance to prove me wrong goober. Show us the Fed Prime rate
for Augest 1981. Show us they don't report 21.5%








In <c1u7b492kr6i7clmj7sm9vr60m39f9fsni@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:35 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:



Stop lying ashole. The Fed monthly pages shows the rate of 21.5% under
reagon in Aug of 1981.

You keep making the claim and keep refusing to cite your data. Is it
because you're a liar, or you're too stupid to find it on your own?

I'm guessing both. Typical leftist.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President." LIE 6 "I
never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done" LIE 15
"LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

This is your chance to prove me wrong goober. Show us the Fed Prime rate
for Augest 1981. Show us they don't report 21.5%











In <1a08b4phfbc0raof45qs8obqod41r38m08@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 06:13 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:


Go look for it asshole. The Federal Reserve has a website with the data.
The URL ends in .gov.

Its real information and it proves that the prime rate hit 21.5% under
reagon, not carter. Of course maybe you are too fucking stupid to figure
out that reagon was president in 1981. Not Carter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest rate
in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

This is your chance to prove me wrong goober. Show us the Fed Prime rate
for Augest 1981. Show us they don't report 21.5%







In <bc08b45kokc85nourdaic7l630l3prqia7@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 06:14 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:



If I post it, will you admit you are a stupid ass and stop boring us with
your nonsense and drivel? -->Because it will prove you are one stupid
ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest rate
in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

Answered. However the troll klaus is too stupid to use google.







In <lot7b458rud5t6dlb2ien45fkamgnrgorc@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:29 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:


Quote:
In <isv6b4dg70r13n1l8j0hdduviru1lrttqm@4ax.com>, on 08/25/2008
at 08:59 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:


Stop lying goober. The Federal Reserve data proves the prime rate hit
21.5% under reagon, not carter.

If it did, you'd cite it. But you don't. Because you're a liar.



You have lied goober. I'm not playing yoru troll game. Look at Aug
1981. The prime rate was 21.5 %.

Cite, liar.

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President." LIE 6 "I
never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done" LIE 15
"LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

Answered. However the troll klaus is too stupid to use google.








In <7ct7b49ukmknebkrbouob11317cm9roiv6@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:23 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote:

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in message
news:rav6b49pg801jnarjvoetdmt16qs55h3jf@4ax.com...
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:



Sorry asshole but the --> Federal Reserve <--- data proves me right and
you wrong.

You're too afraid to post a cite because (a) you obviously can't find
it and (b) it proves you to be a liar.

You're neither one worth the time it takes to open a post.

Christ, what a couple of worthless douchebags.

Yet here you are responding, you hypocritical fucktard. Thanks for
showing that you care.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

All Answered. However the troll klaus is too stupid to use google.








In <0jt7b4147q4opkpcnglb6ahvi4lhcp09h6@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:26 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President." LIE 6 "I
never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done" LIE 15
"LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

Answered. However the troll klaus is too stupid to use google.






In <5ft7b4dev0bketnfb5k0m60o9fnmtljfm6@4ax.com>, on 08/26/2008
at 05:24 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> said:



Quote:
In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:



Funny how you right wing liars don't include that data through 1981 --
that shows the prime rate of 21.5% under reagon.

Funnier how you can't produce any data at all. Having trouble finding it?

________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President." LIE 6 "I
never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done" LIE 15
"LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

Are you telling us you are too stupid to find the Fed website son?

The fact is the prime rate hit 21.5% in aug 1981 under reagon and you
right wign goons are lying.








In <zcQsk.685$482.466@trnddc06>, on 08/26/2008
at 09:40 AM, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said:




Quote:
TruthTeller@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:PdLsk.820$w51.144@trnddc01...
Go look for it asshole. The Federal Reserve has a website with the data.
The URL ends in .gov.

provide the URL to the data you claim. Because what I find doesn't show
that the interest rate ever went over 20% much less the 21.5% you claim.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Skank "leader" for local Chamber of Commerce whines abou Reply with quote

On Aug 26, 12:03 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:48:27 -0700, r...@iheartambien.org wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:12:56 -0700 (PDT), hp...@lycos.com wrote:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SLAUGHTERHOUSE_RAID_WORRIES?SI...

Jerk me a tear! The C of C have proven itself to a mouthpiece for the
sleazebag employers
of illegal aliens.

mitch

http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA

Chambers of Commerce, nationally and locally, are not just their
mouthpieces, they are the complete package that makes the Invasion
possible.

It amusing to watch people getting upset at Hispanic Orgs, as if they
have any power to make the Invasion happen one way or the other. The
people who are taking your country and jobs and communities away from
you are very accessable - they are the various Chambers of Commerce
and other business organizations. The day I see patriots go to those
people and harass them, I will believe the American People are
possibly intelligent enough to save themselves. Not looking too good
so far though.

You are correct.

Double true. I tuned into Bill Moyers Journal a few nights back. It
was
interesting to learn that the US Chamber of Commerce is actually
hindering change in China. It seems that some of the factories in
China were working their people to death. When workers attempted
to organize the Chinese govt. worked to resolve the issue but when
threats by Dell, Microsoft, Wal-Mart and other US companies were made
through the US Chamber of Commerce, that they would take their
business elsewhere the Chinese govt. prevented the labor from
organizing. Too bad. Capitalism does not need democracy to
thrive was the main point of the discussion.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Medical competance in India...was: Re: end of India or e Reply with quote

"Stray Dog" <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0808261302200.20666@sdf.lonestar.org...
Quote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, John Galt wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:14:50 -0500
From: John Galt <kady101@gmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, alt.politics.economics, sci.econ,
soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: end of India or end of Straydog :-)

"Stray Dog" <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0808260146590.8132@sdf.lonestar.org...

(see quoted material at end)

Why don't you look up FDI inflows into the USA someday? You Indians only
look at what is happening in India and if its good, then you brag about
it. And, if its bad, then you don't want to talk about it. And, I'm not
joking.

If healthcare is so good in India, then why don't you go back there and
have what you consider a better life? After all, that sounds like what
Tambi Dude, and "indiaBPOking" are trying to sell. Fine with me.

[JG] Health care's good in India, and cheap, but not up to date. My wife
had
two procedures there that are now being "fixed" here.

Hi JG,

Did these procedures that were "fixed" needed to be fixed? In other words,
what if they were not "fixed"? Would your wife suffer in some way if the
Indian work was left alone?

Neither "must" be fixed. One is an inconvenience, the other does cause a
good deal of pain under certain circumstances, but those circumstances can
be mitigated.
Quote:

In each case,. the US
doctor noted that the procedure in India was well-done, but done using
techniques a decade or more old.

So, you get what you pay for, eh? Wink

Well, yea. I am IN GENERAL a fan of the idea of medical tourism, but the
typical patient is really not tooled to understand the diffrences between
various procedures and the options therein.

There was actually a third procedure that had to be mitigated back here in
the States, that exposed a 3rd problem -- that being that even well-regarded
Indian facilities tend not to have up to date medical equipment on hand,

All told, I'm not sure I'd do a medical procedure in a developing nation.
People looking for better prices tend to look at the developing world and
*forget* that the cash-and-carry prices for procedures in the DEVELOPED
nations (France, Italy, Hong Kong.....) is also far cheaper than the
cash-and-carry prices in the US.
Quote:

Just like the Indian wind turbine reports coming out: all kinds of
problems, cracked blades in US installations, and in India they (Suzlon)
are having big problems, too.

India is in the process of becoming a developed nation. They're not there
yet, and I say that with a great deal of repect for what's been achieved and
affection for the people.That said, rhetoric which (1) implies that they are
a developed nation NOW, and (2) that their achievement of developed nation
status is a foregone conclusion, reflects jingoism rather than reality,

JG
Quote:

But, in the spirit of "father@father.com", no offense meant. Just joking
about somebody's "bad luck," eh? (wink, wink)

Straydog

JG

hen more people leave the USA than come to the USA, then the USA is in
decline. Maybe it will happen in some decades. I will be dead.
"indiaBPOking" said two months ago the USA will collapse in September (go
check past posts). He also, couple months ago made the post "Death to
America". I should maybe tell our FBI? Oh, excuse me, I was just joking.

Judging by WSJ articles, through today, the US economy is not doing that
bad. China is on cloud nine after the Olympics. Not much news on India
except...in today's WSJ, page B1, Aug 25, 2008, is this article:

title: "India's Suzlon Energy Encounters Headwinds at Home" and its all
about Suzlon's wind turbine blade major problems, even in installations
in
india. They are having big problems. Two months ago a California company
cancelled orders for more Indian wind turbines because the blades were
cracking on a lot of turbines. Suzlon, an Indian company, is in big
trouble. No joke. Sorry.





















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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Markets have performed much better under Democrat admini Reply with quote

In talk.politics.guns TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:

Quote:


This is your chance to prove me wrong goober. Show us the Fed Prime rate
for Augest 1981. Show us they don't report 21.5%

Easy, dufus. You lose- AGAIN!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Economy:_stagflation_and_the_appointment_of_Volcker
Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10%
when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12% within two
months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest
rate in U.S. history under any President.[39]

[39] http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp
========================================================

"...the record 21.5% attained during the Carter Administration."
-TIME magazine, August 30, 1982

========================================================

"The prime rate kept racing upward, hitting a record 21.5% in December
1980."
-TIME magazine, June 15, 1987

========================================================

"While the prime rate has indeed dropped from a Carter presidency high
of 21.5%..."
-TIME magazine, May 10, 1982
________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies

LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
LIE 6 "I never said the atomic bombing was justified."
LIE 7 "Bush hasn't been in Iraq"
LIE 8 "The draft has been signed."
LIE 9 "Parts of the draft has been signed."
LIE 10 "The draft agreement is now final"
LIE 11 "They're finished with the draft agreement"
LIE 12 "provisions ... were signed as progress was made"
LIE 13 "the draft is done, and on its way to Washington."
LIE 14 "I can post the names ... who say the draft is done"
LIE 15 "LIE 15 "The prime rate hit 21.5% under right wing reagon"
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