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Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
by Tag Heuer
Who could have seen it coming those years ago when then the Teflon®
President, Ronald Wilson Reagan was riding high and mighty leaving
behind a virtually indelible legacy that it would come to a horrible
squeal from the rank and file of his own beloved conservative
Republican party twenty years later, and as it is sanctimoniously
kicked to the curb by the American electorate - twice even - thus sent
into the howling political wilderness?
Reagan's so-called 11th Rule, in that, "Thou shalt not speak ill of
any fellow Republican," came to bear today when Senator Chuck Hagel
(R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by the great entertainers
like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like
that would run for office ... They have so much to contribute and so
much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would
be elected overwhelmingly. The truth is, they try to rip everyone down
and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers." But of
course there was never any love lost between the two since the
bellicose demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago over
the Iraq War.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and buffoons as
well? More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican (who like a deranged chameleon on Oxy contin flip-flops
from being a "commentator," a "doctor," a "professor," and just today
putting himself up there in the Main Stream Media™ itself by calling
himself an "anchorman," and of course, who over the years has been
credited for his party's victories from the "Contract on America™" and
to equal extent the soon failed Republican majority and rule of the
government at the turn of the century.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic state of the
'Grand Old Perverted' party which ran a campaign of smear and lies in
the last election, and who himself was subject to the very same
repugnant campaign attacks and of which, through former GOP chair
Gaylord Parkinson, coined the famous 11th Reagan "Commandment."
On another front, and one which he touted in terms of "Peace through
strength," the pathetic state of the U.S. military, caught in two
quagmires and utter failures in foreign policy and of a "Bush
Doctrine," that did not come close to anything which would resemble
"The Gipper's" for use of a better term, tact (or was it strategy?) in
the use of our military forces and diplomacy is just as abhor able.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with a knife,'
and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon in '83.
Twenty-five years later the question over the military deployment in
Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration and
President-elect Barack Obama, and a Congress with a Democrat-held
majority ... The Republicans who have lost two elections in a row are
now exhibiting contrition in these days after the election and that
has even former Democrat, and political "Benedict Arnold," Sen. Joe
Lieberman breathing an apologetic sigh of relief that he wasn't
frog-marched "stripped of rank," and service to this nation in terms
of the Senate over his deleterious remarks and statements in support
of the losing Republican candidacy of the Palin-McCain ticket.
Thus the mass exodus, and possible Diaspora of the Republicans is now
what is being witnessed and in full swing, with the slight possiblity
of a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate; with it all the glory and
triumph of the past eight years, and up to 1994 when the Republican
Revolution™ began in Congress, and even further with the ascension of
Ronald Reagan from 1980-88 do we see the end of the beginning, and the
beginning of another era in American politics, and where the
late-President Reagan since has passed away, and his political party
becoming even that much more as America wakes from a nightmare and
with a long awaited inauguration approaching; and .
-
"I love being your president ... I cannot wait for tomorrow -- but
tonight, we've got some dancing to do." --- George W. Bush, on the eve
of inauguration, Washington DC - January 20, 2001
"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - George
W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, 3 months after the 9/11
attacks, Washington, D.C., December 20, 2001
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| Quote: | Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
by Tag Heuer
Who could have seen it coming those years ago
when then the Teflon®
President, Ronald Wilson Reagan was riding high
and mighty leaving
behind a virtually indelible legacy that it
would come to a horrible
squeal from the rank and file of his own beloved
conservative
Republican party twenty years later, and as it
is sanctimoniously
kicked to the curb by the American electorate -
twice even - thus sent
into the howling political wilderness?
Reagan's so-called 11th Rule, in that, "Thou
shalt not speak ill of
any fellow Republican," came to bear today when
Senator Chuck Hagel
(R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by
the great entertainers
like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish Rush
Limbaugh and others like
that would run for office ... They have so much
to contribute and so
much leadership and they have an answer for
everything. And they would
be elected overwhelmingly. The truth is, they
try to rip everyone down
and make fools of everybody but they don't have
any answers." But of
course there was never any love lost between the
two since the
bellicose demagogue had disparagingly slighted
him some time ago over
the Iraq War.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns,
chimps and buffoons as
well? More germane to the point is the fact
that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican (who like a deranged chameleon on Oxy
contin flip-flops
from being a "commentator," a "doctor," a
"professor," and just today
putting himself up there in the Main Stream
MediaT itself by calling
himself an "anchorman," and of course, who over
the years has been
credited for his party's victories from the
"Contract on AmericaT" and
to equal extent the soon failed Republican
majority and rule of the
government at the turn of the century.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and
pathetic state of the
'Grand Old Perverted' party which ran a campaign
of smear and lies in
the last election, and who himself was subject
to the very same
repugnant campaign attacks and of which, through
former GOP chair
Gaylord Parkinson, coined the famous 11th Reagan
"Commandment."
On another front, and one which he touted in
terms of "Peace through
strength," the pathetic state of the U.S.
military, caught in two
quagmires and utter failures in foreign policy
and of a "Bush
Doctrine," that did not come close to anything
which would resemble
"The Gipper's" for use of a better term, tact
(or was it strategy?) in
the use of our military forces and diplomacy is
just as abhor able.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a
'gun-fight with a knife,'
and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks
bombing in Lebanon in '83.
Twenty-five years later the question over the
military deployment in
Iraq is one left to the new incoming
administration and
President-elect Barack Obama, and a Congress
with a Democrat-held
majority ... The Republicans who have lost two
elections in a row are
now exhibiting contrition in these days after
the election and that
has even former Democrat, and political
"Benedict Arnold," Sen. Joe
Lieberman breathing an apologetic sigh of relief
that he wasn't
frog-marched "stripped of rank," and service to
this nation in terms
of the Senate over his deleterious remarks and
statements in support
of the losing Republican candidacy of the
Palin-McCain ticket.
Thus the mass exodus, and possible Diaspora of
the Republicans is now
what is being witnessed and in full swing, with
the slight possiblity
of a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate; with it
all the glory and
triumph of the past eight years, and up to 1994
when the Republican
RevolutionT began in Congress, and even further
with the ascension of
Ronald Reagan from 1980-88 do we see the end of
the beginning, and the
beginning of another era in American politics,
and where the
late-President Reagan since has passed away, and
his political party
becoming even that much more as America wakes
from a nightmare and
with a long awaited inauguration approaching;
and .
-
"I love being your president ... I cannot wait
for tomorrow -- but
tonight, we've got some dancing to do." ---
George W. Bush, on the eve
of inauguration, Washington DC - January 20,
2001
"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for
Laura and me." - George
W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, 3
months after the 9/11
attacks, Washington, D.C., December 20, 2001
--
http://tagheuerblog.blogspot.com
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| Quote: | Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
by Tag Heuer
Who could have seen it coming those years ago when then the Teflon®
President, Ronald Wilson Reagan was riding high and mighty leaving
behind a virtually indelible legacy that it would come to a horrible
squeal from the rank and file of his own beloved conservative
Republican party twenty years later, and as it is sanctimoniously
kicked to the curb by the American electorate - twice even - thus sent
into the howling political wilderness?
Reagan's so-called 11th Rule, in that, "Thou shalt not speak ill of
any fellow Republican," came to bear today when Senator Chuck Hagel
(R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by the great entertainers
like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like
that would run for office ... They have so much to contribute and so
much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would
be elected overwhelmingly. The truth is, they try to rip everyone down
and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers." But of
course there was never any love lost between the two since the
bellicose demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago over
the Iraq War.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and buffoons as
well? More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican (who like a deranged chameleon on Oxy contin flip-flops
from being a "commentator," a "doctor," a "professor," and just today
putting himself up there in the Main Stream MediaT itself by calling
himself an "anchorman," and of course, who over the years has been
credited for his party's victories from the "Contract on AmericaT" and
to equal extent the soon failed Republican majority and rule of the
government at the turn of the century.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic state of the
'Grand Old Perverted' party which ran a campaign of smear and lies in
the last election, and who himself was subject to the very same
repugnant campaign attacks and of which, through former GOP chair
Gaylord Parkinson, coined the famous 11th Reagan "Commandment."
On another front, and one which he touted in terms of "Peace through
strength," the pathetic state of the U.S. military, caught in two
quagmires and utter failures in foreign policy and of a "Bush
Doctrine," that did not come close to anything which would resemble
"The Gipper's" for use of a better term, tact (or was it strategy?) in
the use of our military forces and diplomacy is just as abhor able.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with a knife,'
and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon in '83.
Twenty-five years later the question over the military deployment in
Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration and
President-elect Barack Obama, and a Congress with a Democrat-held
majority ... The Republicans who have lost two elections in a row are
now exhibiting contrition in these days after the election and that
has even former Democrat, and political "Benedict Arnold," Sen. Joe
Lieberman breathing an apologetic sigh of relief that he wasn't
frog-marched "stripped of rank," and service to this nation in terms
of the Senate over his deleterious remarks and statements in support
of the losing Republican candidacy of the Palin-McCain ticket.
Thus the mass exodus, and possible Diaspora of the Republicans is now
what is being witnessed and in full swing, with the slight possiblity
of a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate; with it all the glory and
triumph of the past eight years, and up to 1994 when the Republican
RevolutionT began in Congress, and even further with the ascension of
Ronald Reagan from 1980-88 do we see the end of the beginning, and the
beginning of another era in American politics, and where the
late-President Reagan since has passed away, and his political party
becoming even that much more as America wakes from a nightmare and
with a long awaited inauguration approaching; and .
-
"I love being your president ... I cannot wait for tomorrow -- but
tonight, we've got some dancing to do." --- George W. Bush, on the eve
of inauguration, Washington DC - January 20, 2001
"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - George
W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, 3 months after the 9/11
attacks, Washington, D.C., December 20, 2001
--
http://tagheuerblog.blogspot.com
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Reagan was the chief architect or the deregulation fervor that has gripped
the nation for the past thirty years. Championed by Reagan, pushed by
republicans and even accepted by some Democrats the fervor, basically
undoing Roosevelt's New Deal and the controls it brought is the main reason
our economy is now in the straights its in. "Government is not the solution,
Government is the problem" was the republican mantra for these years all the
while forgetting why the new deal regulations were put in, in the first
place. Even now many republicans can't accept that their beloved Reagan set
the stage for the deep recession we are now in. The failure to understand
the economics of the situation and continue to call for "conservative
principles" clouds much of their thinking. Hopefully we won't allow
republicans to reinstate the failed policies started by Reagan but that wont
keep them from trying. They will do everything in their power to return to
the past. Be ware! |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:09:52 -0500, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:09:23 -0800, Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog@gmail.dot.com> wrote:
Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
by Tag Heuer
Who could have seen it coming those years ago when then the Teflon®
President, Ronald Wilson Reagan was riding high and mighty leaving
behind a virtually indelible legacy that it would come to a horrible
squeal from the rank and file of his own beloved conservative
Republican party twenty years later, and as it is sanctimoniously
kicked to the curb by the American electorate - twice even - thus sent
into the howling political wilderness?
Reagan's so-called 11th Rule, in that, "Thou shalt not speak ill of
any fellow Republican," came to bear today when Senator Chuck Hagel
(R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by the great entertainers
like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like
that would run for office ... They have so much to contribute and so
much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would
be elected overwhelmingly. The truth is, they try to rip everyone down
and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers." But of
course there was never any love lost between the two since the
bellicose demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago over
the Iraq War.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and buffoons as
well? More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican (who like a deranged chameleon on Oxy contin flip-flops
from being a "commentator," a "doctor," a "professor," and just today
putting himself up there in the Main Stream Media™ itself by calling
himself an "anchorman," and of course, who over the years has been
credited for his party's victories from the "Contract on America™" and
to equal extent the soon failed Republican majority and rule of the
government at the turn of the century.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic state of the
'Grand Old Perverted' party which ran a campaign of smear and lies in
the last election, and who himself was subject to the very same
repugnant campaign attacks and of which, through former GOP chair
Gaylord Parkinson, coined the famous 11th Reagan "Commandment."
On another front, and one which he touted in terms of "Peace through
strength," the pathetic state of the U.S. military, caught in two
quagmires and utter failures in foreign policy and of a "Bush
Doctrine," that did not come close to anything which would resemble
"The Gipper's" for use of a better term, tact (or was it strategy?) in
the use of our military forces and diplomacy is just as abhor able.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with a knife,'
and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon in '83.
Twenty-five years later the question over the military deployment in
Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration and
President-elect Barack Obama, and a Congress with a Democrat-held
majority ... The Republicans who have lost two elections in a row are
now exhibiting contrition in these days after the election and that
has even former Democrat, and political "Benedict Arnold," Sen. Joe
Lieberman breathing an apologetic sigh of relief that he wasn't
frog-marched "stripped of rank," and service to this nation in terms
of the Senate over his deleterious remarks and statements in support
of the losing Republican candidacy of the Palin-McCain ticket.
Thus the mass exodus, and possible Diaspora of the Republicans is now
what is being witnessed and in full swing, with the slight possiblity
of a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate; with it all the glory and
triumph of the past eight years, and up to 1994 when the Republican
Revolution™ began in Congress, and even further with the ascension of
Ronald Reagan from 1980-88 do we see the end of the beginning, and the
beginning of another era in American politics, and where the
late-President Reagan since has passed away, and his political party
becoming even that much more as America wakes from a nightmare and
with a long awaited inauguration approaching; and .
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.... [redacted] "hope."
| Quote: | The damage Reagan did lives on!
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Agreed, yet the "vision" and "ideals" of and for the conservative
Republican party, that were his, are for naught.
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" ...To those -- to those who would tear the world down: We will
defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you ...
This is our time, to put our people back to work and open doors of
opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause
of peace; to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental
truth, that, out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope.
And where we are met with cynicism and doubts and those who tell us
that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up
the spirit of a people: Yes, we can ..." --- President-elect Barack
Obama, victory speech, Grant Park, Chicago, Illinois - November 4,
2008
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"I love being your president ... I cannot wait for tomorrow -- but
tonight, we've got some dancing to do." --- George W. Bush, on the eve
of inauguration, Washington DC - January 20, 2001
"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - George
W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, 3 months after the 9/11
attacks, Washington, D.C., December 20, 2001
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Says a zealot who is so partisan blind he doesn't even have hindsight.
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"Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Reagan was the chief architect or the deregulation fervor that has
gripped the nation for the past thirty years.
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That includes Bill Clinton's two-term administration.
And in fact, it was Ronald Reagan who helped break up AT&T. There is
a big difference between no regulation and efficient government.
Back when Ronald Reagan was elected, the government was bloated.
RONALD REAGAN'S FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS:
Senator Hatfield, Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. President, Vice President
Bush, Vice President Mondale, Senator Baker, Speaker O'Neill, Reverend
Moomaw, and my fellow citizens.
To a few of us here today this is a solemn and most momentous
occasion, and yet in the history of our nation it is a commonplace
occurrence. The orderly transfer of authority as called for in the
Constitution routinely takes place, as it has for almost two
centuries, and few of us stop to think how unique we really are. In
the eyes of many in the world, this every-four-year ceremony we accept
as normal is nothing less than a miracle.
Mr. President, I want our fellow citizens to know how much you did to
carry on this tradition. By your gracious cooperation in the
transition process, you have shown a watching world that we are a
united people pledged to maintaining a political system which
guarantees individual liberty to a greater degree than any other, and
I thank you and your people for all your help in maintaining the
continuity which is the bulwark of our republic. The business of our
nation goes forward. These United States are confronted with an
economic affliction of great proportions. We suffer from the longest
and one of the worst sustained inflations in our national history. It
distorts our economic decisions, penalizes thrift, and crushes the
struggling young and the fixed-income elderly alike. It threatens to
shatter the lives of millions of our people.
Idle industries have cast workers into unemployment, human misery, and
personal indignity. Those who do work are denied a fair return for
their labor by a tax system which penalizes successful achievement and
keeps us from maintaining full productivity.
But great as our tax burden is, it has not kept pace with public
spending. For decades we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging
our future and our children's future for the temporary convenience of
the present. To continue this long trend is to guarantee tremendous
social, cultural, political, and economic upheavals.
You and I, as individuals, can, by borrowing, live beyond our means,
but for only a limited period of time. Why, then, should we think that
collectively, as a nation, we're not bound by that same limitation? We
must act today in order to preserve tomorrow. And let there be no
misunderstanding: We are going to begin to act, beginning today.
The economic ills we suffer have come upon us over several decades.
They will not go away in days, weeks, or months, but they will go
away. They will go away because we as Americans have the capacity now,
as we've had in the past, to do whatever needs to be done to preserve
this last and greatest bastion of freedom.
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem;
government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to
believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-
rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for,
by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of
governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern
someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear
the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group
singled out to pay a higher price.
We hear much of special interest groups. Well, our concern must be for
a special interest group that has been too long neglected. It knows no
sectional boundaries or ethnic and racial divisions, and it crosses
political party lines. It is made up of men and women who raise our
food, patrol our streets, man our mines and factories, teach our
children, keep our homes, and heal us when we're sick--professionals,
industrialists, shopkeepers, clerks, cabbies, and truck drivers. They
are, in short, "we the people," this breed called Americans.
Well, this administration's objective will be a healthy, vigorous,
growing economy that provides equal opportunities for all Americans,
with no barriers born of bigotry or discrimination. Putting America
back to work means putting all Americans back to work. Ending
inflation means freeing all Americans from the terror of runaway
living costs. All must share in the productive work of this "new
beginning," and all must share in the bounty of a revived economy.
With the idealism and fair play which are the core of our system and
our strength, we can have a strong and prosperous America, at peace
with itself and the world.
So, as we begin, let us take inventory. We are a nation that has a
government--not the other way around. And this makes us special among
the nations of the Earth. Our government has no power except that
granted it by the people. It is time to check and reverse the growth
of government, which shows signs of having grown beyond the consent of
the governed.
It is my intention to curb the size and influence of the federal
establishment and to demand recognition of the distinction between the
powers granted to the federal government and those reserved to the
states or to the people. All of us need to be reminded that the
federal government did not create the states; the states created the
federal government.
Now, so there will be no misunderstanding, it's not my intention to do
away with government. It is rather to make it work--work with us, not
over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can
and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not
stifle it.
If we look to the answer as to why for so many years we achieved so
much, prospered as no other people on earth, it was because here in
this land we unleashed the energy and individual genius of man to a
greater extent than has ever been done before. Freedom and the dignity
of the individual have been more available and assured here than in
any other place on earth. The price for this freedom at times has been
high, but we have never been unwilling to pay the price.
It is no coincidence that our present troubles parallel and are
proportionate to the intervention and intrusion in our lives that
result from unnecessary and excessive growth of government. It is time
for us to realize that we're too great a nation to limit ourselves to
small dreams. We're not, as some would have us believe, doomed to an
inevitable decline. I do not believe in a fate that will fall on us no
matter what we do. I do believe in a fate that will fall on us if we
do nothing. So, with all the creative energy at our command, let us
begin an era of national renewal. Let us renew our determination, our
courage, and our strength. And let us renew our faith and our hope.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're
in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to
look. You can see heroes every day going in and out of factory gates.
Others, a handful in number, produce enough food to feed all of us and
then the world beyond. You meet heroes across a counter, and they're
on both sides of that counter. There are entrepreneurs with faith in
themselves and faith in an idea who create new jobs, new wealth and
opportunity. They're individuals and families whose taxes support the
government and whose voluntary gifts support church, charity, culture,
art, and education. Their patriotism is quiet, but deep. Their values
sustain our national life.
Now, I have used the words "they" and "their" in speaking of these
heroes. I could say "you" and "your," because I'm addressing the
heroes of whom I speak--you, the citizens of this blessed land. Your
dreams, your hopes, your goals are going to be the dreams, the hopes,
and the goals of this administration, so help me God.
We shall reflect the compassion that is so much a part of your makeup.
How can we love our country and not love our countrymen; and loving
them, reach out a hand when they fall, heal them when they're sick,
and provide opportunity to make them self-sufficient so they will be
equal in fact and not just in theory?
Can we solve the problems confronting us? Well, the answer is an
unequivocal and emphatic "yes." To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did
not take the oath I've just taken with the intention of presiding over
the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
In the days ahead I will propose removing the roadblocks that have
slowed our economy and reduced productivity. Steps will be taken aimed
at restoring the balance between the various levels of government.
Progress may be slow, measured in inches and feet, not miles, but we
will progress. It is time to reawaken this industrial giant, to get
government back within its means, and to lighten our punitive tax
burden. And these will be our first priorities, and on these
principles there will be no compromise.
On the eve of our struggle for independence a man who might have been
one of the greatest among the Founding Fathers, Dr. Joseph Warren,
president of the Massachusetts Congress, said to his fellow Americans,
"Our country is in danger, but not to be despaired of . . . On you
depend the fortunes of America. You are to decide the important
questions upon which rests the happiness and the liberty of millions
yet unborn. Act worthy of yourselves." Well, I believe we, the
Americans of today, are ready to act worthy of ourselves, ready to do
what must be done to ensure happiness and liberty for ourselves, our
children, and our children's children. And as we renew ourselves here
in our own land, we will be seen as having greater strength throughout
the world. We will again be the exemplar of freedom and a beacon of
hope for those who do not now have freedom.
To those neighbors and allies who share our freedom, we will
strengthen our historic ties and assure them of our support and firm
commitment. We will match loyalty with loyalty. We will strive for
mutually beneficial relations. We will not use our friendship to
impose on their sovereignty, for our own sovereignty is not for sale.
As for the enemies of freedom, those who are potential adversaries,
they will be reminded that peace is the highest aspiration of the
American people. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it; we will
not surrender for it, now or ever.
Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for
conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is
required to preserve our national security, we will act. We will
maintain sufficient strength to prevail if need be, knowing that if we
do so we have the best chance of never having to use that strength.
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal or no weapon in the
arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage
of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world
do not have. It is a weapon that we as Americans do have. Let that be
understood by those who practice terrorism and prey upon their
neighbors. I'm told that tens of thousands of prayer meetings are
being held on this day, and for that I'm deeply grateful. We are a
nation under God, and I believe God intended for us to be free. It
would be fitting and good, I think, if on each Inaugural Day in future
years it should be declared a day of prayer.
This is the first time in our history that this ceremony has been
held, as you've been told, on the West Front of the Capitol. Standing
here, one faces a magnificent vista, opening up on the city's special
beauty and history. At the end of this open mall are those shrines to
the giants on whose shoulders we stand.
Directly in front of me, the monument to a monumental man, George
Washington, father of our country. A man of humility who came to
greatness reluctantly. He led Americans out of revolutionary victory
into infant nationhood. Off to one side, the stately memorial to
Thomas Jefferson. The Declaration of Independence flames with his
eloquence. And then, beyond the Reflecting Pool, the dignified columns
of the Lincoln Memorial. Whoever would understand in his heart the
meaning of America will find it in the life of Abraham Lincoln.
Beyond those monuments to heroism is the Potomac River, and on the far
shore the sloping hills of Arlington National Cemetery, with its row
upon row of simple white markers bearing crosses of Stars of David.
They add up to only a tiny fraction of the price that has been paid
for our freedom. Each one of those markers is a monument to the kind
of hero I spoke of earlier. Their lives ended in places called Belleau
Wood, the Argonne, Omaha Beach, Salerno, and halfway around the world
on Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Pork Chop Hill, the Chosin Reservoir, and in a
hundred rice paddies and jungles of a place called Vietnam.
Under one such marker lies a young man, Martin Treptow, who left his
job in a small town barbershop in 1917 to go to France with the famed
Rainbow Division. There, on the western front, he was killed trying to
carry a message between battalions under heavy artillery fire.
We're told that on his body was found a diary. On the flyleaf under
the heading "My Pledge," he had written these words: "America must win
this war. Therefore I will work, I will save, I will sacrifice, I will
endure, I will fight cheerfully and do my utmost, as if the issue of
the whole struggle depended on me alone."
The crisis we are facing today does not require of us the kind of
sacrifice that Martin Treptow and so many thousands of others were
called upon to make. It does require, however, our best effort and our
willingness to believe in ourselves and to believe in our capacity to
perform great deeds, to believe that together with God's help we can
and will resolve the problems which now confront us.
And after all, why shouldn't we believe that? We are Americans.
God bless you, and thank you. |
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Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog gmail.dot.com> wrote:
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One might think the Reagan era was dead after two terms of Democrat
Bill Clinton.
| Quote: | Who could have seen it coming ... twenty years later,
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It's called "things happening over a quarter-century".
| Quote: | Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by
the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish
Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run for office ... They
have so much to contribute and so much leadership and they have an
answer for everything. And they would be elected overwhelmingly.
The truth is, they try to rip everyone down and make fools of
everybody but they don't have any answers." But of course there
was never any love lost between the two since the bellicose
demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago over the
Iraq War.
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The problem is that Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
Republicans have them. Democrats have them. One-way media trolls
cover the entire territory.
About six months from now, you'll have a one-way media tearing the
skin off of Barack Obama.
| Quote: | Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and buffoons
as well?
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You mean "among". Some of them were. I guess that distinguishes a
great leader.
| Quote: | More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican
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Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
| Quote: | Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic state of
the 'Grand Old Perverted' party
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Yeah. And then there is the moral degenerate Democrats on the other
hand.
| Quote: | At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with a
knife,' and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing in
Lebanon in '83.
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One of Ronald Reagan's motives for not going after the bad guys is
that he didn't want to kill innocent civilians in the process.
Obviously George Bush Jr doesn't feel the same way. Bill Clinton
didn't feel the same way.
| Quote: | Twenty-five years later the question over the military deployment
in Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration and
President-elect Barack Obama,
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Let's see if Barack Obama treats human life as a statistic, whether
he thinks it's okay to kill innocent people as long as we're going
after a bad guy. Hopefully we won't end up with another invasion, or
an army tank bulldozing a structure that has three dozen children
inside.
I will be pleasantly surprised if the Obama/Biden administration
doesn't continue the crusade to rid the world of evil men, and even
to add another crusade on top of that one (Joseph Biden's life's
work, to liberate all the world's women from their husbands).
If Obama gets us out of Iraq in short order and makes our stay in
Afghanistan short too, that will be impressive.
Good luck.
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John Doe wrote:
| Quote: | "Sid9" <sid9 bellsouth.net> wrote:
The damage Reagan did lives on!
Says a zealot who is so partisan blind he doesn't even
have hindsight.
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I remember the Reagan years very well. The unemployment
rate averaged 7.5%. Reagan raised taxes more times than any
president in history. The deregulation movement that he
began started out with the savings and loan bailout. It
continues today with a bailout that makes the S&L bailout
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Lamont Cranston
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John Doe wrote:
| Quote: | "Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:
Reagan was the chief architect or the deregulation fervor
that has
gripped the nation for the past thirty years.
That includes Bill Clinton's two-term administration.
And in fact, it was Ronald Reagan who helped break up
AT&T. There is
a big difference between no regulation and efficient
government.
Back when Ronald Reagan was elected, the government was
bloated.
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Reagan added to the bloat. National debt tripled under
Reagan. Under Carter, national debt as a percent of GDP hit
an all-time low. Reagan took care of that very quickly with
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:34:36 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:09:23 -0800, Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog@gmail.dot.com> wrote:
Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
by Tag Heuer
Who could have seen it coming those years ago when then the Teflon®
President, Ronald Wilson Reagan was riding high and mighty leaving
behind a virtually indelible legacy that it would come to a horrible
squeal from the rank and file of his own beloved conservative
Republican party twenty years later, and as it is sanctimoniously
kicked to the curb by the American electorate - twice even - thus sent
into the howling political wilderness?
Reagan's so-called 11th Rule, in that, "Thou shalt not speak ill of
any fellow Republican," came to bear today when Senator Chuck Hagel
(R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are educated by the great entertainers
like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like
that would run for office ... They have so much to contribute and so
much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would
be elected overwhelmingly. The truth is, they try to rip everyone down
and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers." But of
course there was never any love lost between the two since the
bellicose demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago over
the Iraq War.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and buffoons as
well? More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican (who like a deranged chameleon on Oxy contin flip-flops
from being a "commentator," a "doctor," a "professor," and just today
putting himself up there in the Main Stream Media™ itself by calling
himself an "anchorman," and of course, who over the years has been
credited for his party's victories from the "Contract on America™" and
to equal extent the soon failed Republican majority and rule of the
government at the turn of the century.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic state of the
'Grand Old Perverted' party which ran a campaign of smear and lies in
the last election, and who himself was subject to the very same
repugnant campaign attacks and of which, through former GOP chair
Gaylord Parkinson, coined the famous 11th Reagan "Commandment."
On another front, and one which he touted in terms of "Peace through
strength," the pathetic state of the U.S. military, caught in two
quagmires and utter failures in foreign policy and of a "Bush
Doctrine," that did not come close to anything which would resemble
"The Gipper's" for use of a better term, tact (or was it strategy?) in
the use of our military forces and diplomacy is just as abhor able.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with a knife,'
and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon in '83.
Twenty-five years later the question over the military deployment in
Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration and
President-elect Barack Obama, and a Congress with a Democrat-held
majority ... The Republicans who have lost two elections in a row are
now exhibiting contrition in these days after the election and that
has even former Democrat, and political "Benedict Arnold," Sen. Joe
Lieberman breathing an apologetic sigh of relief that he wasn't
frog-marched "stripped of rank," and service to this nation in terms
of the Senate over his deleterious remarks and statements in support
of the losing Republican candidacy of the Palin-McCain ticket.
Thus the mass exodus, and possible Diaspora of the Republicans is now
what is being witnessed and in full swing, with the slight possiblity
of a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate; with it all the glory and
triumph of the past eight years, and up to 1994 when the Republican
Revolution™ began in Congress, and even further with the ascension of
Ronald Reagan from 1980-88 do we see the end of the beginning, and the
beginning of another era in American politics, and where the
late-President Reagan since has passed away, and his political party
becoming even that much more as America wakes from a nightmare and
with a long awaited inauguration approaching; and .
One might think the Reagan era was dead after two terms of Democrat
Bill Clinton. It's called "things happening over a quarter-century".
The problem is that Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
Republicans have them. Democrats have them. One-way media trolls
cover the entire territory. About six months from now, you'll have a
one-way media tearing the skin off of Barack Obama. You mean "among".
Some of them were. I guess that distinguishes a great leader.
Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll. Yeah. And then there is the
moral degenerate Democrats on the other hand. One of Ronald Reagan's
motives for not going after the bad guys is that he didn't want to kill
innocent civilians in the process. Obviously George Bush Jr doesn't feel
the same way. Bill Clinton didn't feel the same way. Let's see if Barack
Obama treats human life as a statistic, whether he thinks it's okay to kill
innocent people as long as we're going after a bad guy. Hopefully we won't
end up with another invasion, or an army tank bulldozing a structure that
has three dozen children inside. I will be pleasantly surprised if the Obama/Biden
administration doesn't continue the crusade to rid the world of evil men, and even
to add another crusade on top of that one (Joseph Biden's life's work, to liberate
all the world's women from their husbands). If Obama gets us out of Iraq in short
order and makes our stay in Afghanistan short too, that will be impressive.
Good luck.
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Well, J.D. let's look at it this way, the slate is now clear and wiped
with the Republicans, and all this talk about how Reagan was the
impetus for any and all perceived or real success that the
GOP/Republican conservative party has had since his departure from
office in '88 is now moot. The days of citing and pointing to Reagan
and to some point in worship, of his affect on a party now wandering
aimlessly for leadership and direction in the proverbial 'wildneness,'
are now, as far as I can see, gone. After January 20th, 2009, as you
cited, the responsibility, leadership and direction of the country
will lay squarely with the Democrats in Congress, including
Republicans who would be so inclined to move the country forward, and
President Barack Obama - This is the mandate from the People of the
United States of America and the electorate, and what they do with
this will determine their success or failure in 2010, 2012 and beyond.
The Reagan-era of influence has now come to a close, and talk amongst
the conservative Republicans is now of how to glean such perceived
stature from their own stock of legislators and leaders, and of which
even AK Gov. Sarah Palin is presumably included. But with the
Begich-Stevens race pretty much decided and any Senate run for Palin
evaporated, the GOP will need to dig deeper and in "vetting" of the
next 'Ronald Reagan' be a much more thorough. Perhaps, Limbaugh,
Hannity, O'Reilly, and the rest of the howling conservative
Republican-meat-puppets and hyenas on radio and cable media may be a
more fitting choice.
Who knows? No one would've guessed that McCain and the G.O.P. would
foist a complete idiot to stand in as POTUS if something should happen
to him ... Not even the rank-and-file Republicans in Congress
themselves who were equally caught by surprise, yet in all
hilariousness bought this idea of having such an incompetent.
Nevertheless, be it 25-years or 35-years hence, the capstone of ALL
Republican political victories of the past, and in citation of Bonzo,
shall soon come to a fitting end with George W. Bush - And good
riddance.
Hope this helps.
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"I love being your president ... I cannot wait for tomorrow -- but
tonight, we've got some dancing to do." --- George W. Bush, on the eve
of inauguration, Washington DC - January 20, 2001
"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - George
W. Bush, summing up his first year in office, 3 months after the 9/11
attacks, Washington, D.C., December 20, 2001
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Lamont Cranston
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John Doe wrote:
| Quote: | Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog gmail.dot.com> wrote:
Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
One might think the Reagan era was dead after two terms of
Democrat
Bill Clinton.
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Clinton continued the Reagan deregulation movement. Clinton
was the best Republican president of the 20th century.
| Quote: |
Who could have seen it coming ... twenty years later,
It's called "things happening over a quarter-century".
Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska) stated, " ... We are
educated by
the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh ... You know, I
wish
Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run for office
... They
have so much to contribute and so much leadership and
they have an
answer for everything. And they would be elected
overwhelmingly.
The truth is, they try to rip everyone down and make
fools of
everybody but they don't have any answers." But of
course there
was never any love lost between the two since the
bellicose
demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some time ago
over the
Iraq War.
The problem is that Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media
troll.
Republicans have them. Democrats have them. One-way media
trolls
cover the entire territory.
About six months from now, you'll have a one-way media
tearing the
skin off of Barack Obama.
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Highly doubtful.
| Quote: |
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns, chimps and
buffoons
as well?
You mean "among". Some of them were. I guess that
distinguishes a
great leader.
More germane to the point is the fact that Limbaugh is
indeed a
Republican
Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and pathetic
state of
the 'Grand Old Perverted' party
Yeah. And then there is the moral degenerate Democrats on
the other
hand.
At least Reagan knew how not to go into a 'gun-fight with
a
knife,' and in regard to the USMC Marine barracks bombing
in
Lebanon in '83.
One of Ronald Reagan's motives for not going after the bad
guys is
that he didn't want to kill innocent civilians in the
process.
Obviously George Bush Jr doesn't feel the same way. Bill
Clinton
didn't feel the same way.
Twenty-five years later the question over the military
deployment
in Iraq is one left to the new incoming administration
and
President-elect Barack Obama,
Let's see if Barack Obama treats human life as a
statistic, whether
he thinks it's okay to kill innocent people as long as
we're going
after a bad guy. Hopefully we won't end up with another
invasion, or
an army tank bulldozing a structure that has three dozen
children
inside.
I will be pleasantly surprised if the Obama/Biden
administration
doesn't continue the crusade to rid the world of evil men,
and even
to add another crusade on top of that one (Joseph Biden's
life's
work, to liberate all the world's women from their
husbands).
If Obama gets us out of Iraq in short order and makes our
stay in
Afghanistan short too, that will be impressive.
Good luck.
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| Quote: | Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog gmail.dot.com> wrote:
Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
One might think the Reagan era was dead after
two terms of Democrat
Bill Clinton.
Who could have seen it coming ... twenty years
later,
It's called "things happening over a
quarter-century".
Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska) stated, " ...
We are educated by
the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh ...
You know, I wish
Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run
for office ... They
have so much to contribute and so much
leadership and they have an
answer for everything. And they would be
elected overwhelmingly.
The truth is, they try to rip everyone down and
make fools of
everybody but they don't have any answers."
But of course there
was never any love lost between the two since
the bellicose
demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some
time ago over the
Iraq War.
The problem is that Rush Limbaugh is a one-way
media troll.
Republicans have them. Democrats have them.
One-way media trolls
cover the entire territory.
About six months from now, you'll have a one-way
media tearing the
skin off of Barack Obama.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns,
chimps and buffoons
as well?
You mean "among". Some of them were. I guess
that distinguishes a
great leader.
More germane to the point is the fact that
Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican
Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and
pathetic state of
the 'Grand Old Perverted' party
Yeah. And then there is the moral degenerate
Democrats on the other
hand.
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The moral degenerates around here are the
Republicans who spent and borrowed our nation into
a financial wreck while singing the praises of St
Ronnie.
HW Bush continued the same treasury raiding
policies driving us further into debt.
Then they harassed Clinton for eight years on
issues that nothing to do with his performance in
office as he restored fiscal sanity to our
government.
Last, they installed the incompetent, arrogant.
brainless bush,jr who has nearly finished off our
country.
61 days left......lets hope bush,jr and the
Republicans further damage can be limited. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Opinion: Reagan Era Is Officially Dead |
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Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog@gmail.dot.com> wrote:
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As you apparently already know, Tag Heuer, we aren't coming to you.
And since you're here, you need to learn USENET formatting if you
expect anyone except trolls here to read/follow you. |
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John Doe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Opinion: Reagan Era Is Officially Dead |
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Too bad you are just a zealot, Sid9.
A little work and you could be a good troll.
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| Quote: | Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog gmail.dot.com> wrote:
Reagan Era Is Officially Dead
One might think the Reagan era was dead after
two terms of Democrat
Bill Clinton.
Who could have seen it coming ... twenty years
later,
It's called "things happening over a
quarter-century".
Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska) stated, " ...
We are educated by
the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh ...
You know, I wish
Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run
for office ... They
have so much to contribute and so much
leadership and they have an
answer for everything. And they would be
elected overwhelmingly.
The truth is, they try to rip everyone down and
make fools of
everybody but they don't have any answers."
But of course there
was never any love lost between the two since
the bellicose
demagogue had disparagingly slighted him some
time ago over the
Iraq War.
The problem is that Rush Limbaugh is a one-way
media troll.
Republicans have them. Democrats have them.
One-way media trolls
cover the entire territory.
About six months from now, you'll have a one-way
media tearing the
skin off of Barack Obama.
Was Reagan speaking in the context of clowns,
chimps and buffoons
as well?
You mean "among". Some of them were. I guess
that distinguishes a
great leader.
More germane to the point is the fact that
Limbaugh is indeed a
Republican
Rush Limbaugh is a one-way media troll.
Reagan himself would be appalled at the sad and
pathetic state of
the 'Grand Old Perverted' party
Yeah. And then there is the moral degenerate
Democrats on the other
hand.
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The moral degenerates around here are the
Republicans who spent and borrowed our nation into
a financial wreck while singing the praises of St
Ronnie.
HW Bush continued the same treasury raiding
policies driving us further into debt.
Then they harassed Clinton for eight years on
issues that nothing to do with his performance in
office as he restored fiscal sanity to our
government.
Last, they installed the incompetent, arrogant.
brainless bush,jr who has nearly finished off our
country.
61 days left......lets hope bush,jr and the
Republicans further damage can be limited. |
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John Doe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Opinion: Reagan Era Is Officially Dead |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@IShadow.com> wrote:
| Quote: | John Doe wrote:
About six months from now, you'll have a one-way media tearing
the skin off of Barack Obama.
Highly doubtful.
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That's the way it works here in the United States.
I'm impressed that you have a computer and an Internet connection,
Lamont Cranston. You even speak English. Now get a clue. Try doing a
little research before babbling stuff you know nothing about.
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