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Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority?
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Tag Heuer
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority?
by Tag Heuer

Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss vs. Democrat Jim Martin in
Georgia; Republican and convicted felon Ted Stevens vs. Democrat and
Mayor of Anchorage Mark Begich in Alaska, and of course Republican
incumbent Norm Coleman vs. former Saturday Night Live actor and
producer Democrat Al Franken in Minnesota, hold history within these
three races the potential for the Democrats to achieve a 60-seat
filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

This is the ultimate political nightmare for the Republicans who are
mustering every ounce of support that they can in these three races.
The run-off election in Georgia will be contentious as even
former-Republican presidential candidate, and loser, Sen. John McCain
will begin stumping for Chambliss in the South.

Mark Begich in Alaska has a lead slight lead over Stevens in Alaska,
and Al Franken who is behind by a couple of hundred votes as of this
entry has filed suit regarding a list of voters whose 'absentee
ballots were disqualified,' yet best positioned to win if the ruling
comes in his favor, and or if a manual re-count of the votes are to be
held.

The thought of a filibuster-proof Democrat Senate coupled with a
Democrat President has some worried that such an "imbalance of power"
could have certain negative consequence where legislation is
concerned, and more to the point giving the Democrats total control of
two of the three branches of government which on the other side of the
coin is required to bring not only a "change" to Washington, but to
correct the course and destiny of a nation that is in dire need of
correction after 8-years of a Republican president who has overseen
the largest debt increase; expansion of government; run away spending;
two wars (one of which was unnecessary and built on propaganda and
deceit); documented malfeasance where the US Constitution is concerned
and many, many more matters that has imperiled the country, and pushed
it to the brink of potential collapse and disaster.

Yes. A filibuster-proof Senate is a welcomed thought, and one that
when proven appropriate in the years to come shall illustrate what
true "change" means, and possibly along the lines of another epoch of
American history with regard to FDR's "New Deal." Yet, on the other
side of that coin, is one that could once again shift the balance of
power in Congress to the "Dark-side" once again, and on and on it will
go.

Until these three races are decided and deemed official, and what to
do with the Congressional pariah in the way of Sen. Joe Lieberman,
it's just far too close to call but America shall know soon enough -
http://tinyurl.com/6hu4h9

-
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between
Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between
Iraq and al Qaeda . . ." --- George W. Bush, Whitehouse, June 18, 2004

"...First, just if I might correct a misperception, I don’t think
we ever said -- at least I know I didn’t say that there was a direct
connection between September the 11th and Saddam Hussein ..."
--- George W. Bush, Cleveland, Ohio, March 20, 2006

"...One of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war
on terror." --- George W. Bush, CBS Evening News, September 6, 2006
--
http://tagheuerblog.blogspot.com
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Son of Darwin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Tag Heuer <tagheuerblog@gmail.dot.com> wrote in
news:0a5sh49o53pdpa4203opbvl68rsl5j8njo@4ax.com:

Quote:
Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority?
by Tag Heuer

Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss vs. Democrat Jim Martin in
Georgia; Republican and convicted felon Ted Stevens vs. Democrat and
Mayor of Anchorage Mark Begich in Alaska, and of course Republican
incumbent Norm Coleman vs. former Saturday Night Live actor and
producer Democrat Al Franken in Minnesota, hold history within these
three races the potential for the Democrats to achieve a 60-seat
filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

This is the ultimate political nightmare for the Republicans who are
mustering every ounce of support that they can in these three races.
The run-off election in Georgia will be contentious as even
former-Republican presidential candidate, and loser, Sen. John McCain
will begin stumping for Chambliss in the South.

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious attack

ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now McCain is
campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political flip-flop of all
time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to use the armed forces
for nation building.

2) McCain's a loser who dragged down the GOP with him. Therefore, I hope
McCain gets lots and lots of face time on TV down there.
--
"Sarah Palin's a whack job."

- John McCain campaign staffer
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MioMyo
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Whichever way it goes, including if Al Franken is able to steal the election
as it appears he is doing, democrats will be fully accountable to the people
for the direction/health of the country- no more excuses - no more democrats
playing the blame game.

Two years later and dem congress will be gone and 4 if not sooner the
presidency.....


"Tag Heuer" <tagheuerblog@gmail.dot.com> wrote in message
news:0a5sh49o53pdpa4203opbvl68rsl5j8njo@4ax.com...
Quote:
Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority?
by Tag Heuer

Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss vs. Democrat Jim Martin in
Georgia; Republican and convicted felon Ted Stevens vs. Democrat and
Mayor of Anchorage Mark Begich in Alaska, and of course Republican
incumbent Norm Coleman vs. former Saturday Night Live actor and
producer Democrat Al Franken in Minnesota, hold history within these
three races the potential for the Democrats to achieve a 60-seat
filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

This is the ultimate political nightmare for the Republicans who are
mustering every ounce of support that they can in these three races.
The run-off election in Georgia will be contentious as even
former-Republican presidential candidate, and loser, Sen. John McCain
will begin stumping for Chambliss in the South.

Mark Begich in Alaska has a lead slight lead over Stevens in Alaska,
and Al Franken who is behind by a couple of hundred votes as of this
entry has filed suit regarding a list of voters whose 'absentee
ballots were disqualified,' yet best positioned to win if the ruling
comes in his favor, and or if a manual re-count of the votes are to be
held.

The thought of a filibuster-proof Democrat Senate coupled with a
Democrat President has some worried that such an "imbalance of power"
could have certain negative consequence where legislation is
concerned, and more to the point giving the Democrats total control of
two of the three branches of government which on the other side of the
coin is required to bring not only a "change" to Washington, but to
correct the course and destiny of a nation that is in dire need of
correction after 8-years of a Republican president who has overseen
the largest debt increase; expansion of government; run away spending;
two wars (one of which was unnecessary and built on propaganda and
deceit); documented malfeasance where the US Constitution is concerned
and many, many more matters that has imperiled the country, and pushed
it to the brink of potential collapse and disaster.

Yes. A filibuster-proof Senate is a welcomed thought, and one that
when proven appropriate in the years to come shall illustrate what
true "change" means, and possibly along the lines of another epoch of
American history with regard to FDR's "New Deal." Yet, on the other
side of that coin, is one that could once again shift the balance of
power in Congress to the "Dark-side" once again, and on and on it will
go.

Until these three races are decided and deemed official, and what to
do with the Congressional pariah in the way of Sen. Joe Lieberman,
it's just far too close to call but America shall know soon enough -
http://tinyurl.com/6hu4h9

-
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between
Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between
Iraq and al Qaeda . . ." --- George W. Bush, Whitehouse, June 18, 2004

"...First, just if I might correct a misperception, I don't think
we ever said -- at least I know I didn't say that there was a direct
connection between September the 11th and Saddam Hussein ..."
--- George W. Bush, Cleveland, Ohio, March 20, 2006

"...One of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war
on terror." --- George W. Bush, CBS Evening News, September 6, 2006
--
http://tagheuerblog.blogspot.com
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Obama-Biden in 08
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

"MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:YqqTk.7771$be.4158@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
Quote:
Whichever way it goes, including if Al Franken is able to steal the
election as it appears he is doing,

Pray tell, how does trying to get the votes of those who had to cast
provisional ballots (because Republicans illegally "caged" their votes on
the grounds that their homes had been repossessed, and thus they no longer
reside at the addresses listed on the registrations) counted constitute
"stealing" an election. There is nothing in our election law that says that
the homeless . . . especially those only recently made homeless by the
economic failures of an inept administration . . . should not be allowed to
vote.

--
Current Projected Electoral Vote Count:
Obama/Biden 364
McInsane/Failin' 163

Alaskan men's three favorite winter pastimes:
1) Hockey
2) Snowmobiling
3) Nailin' Palin
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Lubow
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

Quote:
1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious attack
ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now McCain is
campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political flip-flop of all
time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to use the armed forces
for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?
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Son of Darwin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

"Lubow" <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote in
news:491e8a5a$0$8582$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com:

Quote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious attack
ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now McCain is
campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political flip-flop of
all time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to use the armed
forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?



http://www.southernledger.com/ap/195695/McCain_asks_Georgia_voters_to_ba
c
k_Sen_Chambliss

"I've never seen anything like that ad," McCain, a Vietnam prisoner of
war, said in 2003. "Putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin
Laden next to a picture of a man who left three limbs on the
battlefield, it's worse than disgraceful, it's reprehensible."

--
"Sarah Palin's a whack job."

- John McCain campaign staffer
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Son of Darwin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.238879c9b0ccaf1698ba92@news.individual.net:

Quote:
Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now
McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political
flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to
use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.


--
"Sarah Palin's a whack job."

- John McCain campaign staffer
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Son of Darwin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.23888348c6790de298ba97@news.individual.net:

Quote:
Son of Darwin <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote:
Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.238879c9b0ccaf1698ba92@news.individual.net:

Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland.
Now McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate
political flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's
pledge never to use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.


We all know that Iraq wasn't an exercise in "social engineering", it
was an exercise in Liberty!

If it was, it failed miserably.


--
"Sarah Palin's a whack job."

- John McCain campaign staffer
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bushlyed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

On Nov 14, 10:22 pm, "Obama-Biden in 08" <NoTha...@NoSpam.com> wrote:
Quote:
"MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:YqqTk.7771$be.4158@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...

Whichever way it goes, including if Al Franken is able to steal the
election as it appears he is doing,

Pray tell, how does trying to get the votes of those who had to cast
provisional ballots (because Republicans illegally "caged" their votes on
the grounds that their homes had been repossessed, and thus they no longer
reside at the addresses listed on the registrations) counted constitute
"stealing" an election.  There is nothing in our election law that says that
the homeless . . . especially those only recently made homeless by the
economic failures of an inept administration . . . should not be allowed to
vote.


Now it is true that these people may not be qualified to vote for
specific state senators or state representative, or local ballot
initiatives or local contests because they no longer reside in the
district

But they are citizens of Minnesota and of the United States and they
are allowed to vote for their Senator and President

Quote:
--
Current Projected Electoral Vote Count:
Obama/Biden 364
McInsane/Failin' 163


I am sorry to have to correct a fellow liberal but the Electoral Count
is Obama/Biden 365, McCain Palin 162

It seems Nebraska's second Congressional District went for Obama
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bushlyed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

On Nov 15, 4:48 am, "Lubow" <lu...@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-ent...@coldmail.com> wrote in messagenews:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious attack
ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now McCain is
campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political flip-flop of all
time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to use the armed forces
for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

If it is available, we will see it soon enough in TV commercials
against Chambliss
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bushlyed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

On Nov 15, 6:57 am, Kenneth <kennethjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Son of Darwin <biological-ent...@coldmail.com> wrote:



Kenneth <kennethjo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.238879c9b0ccaf1698ba92@news.individual.net:

Lubow <lu...@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-ent...@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now
McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political
flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to
use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.

We all know that Iraq wasn't an exercise in "social engineering", it was an
exercise in Liberty

Please explain what "liberal social engineering is"

And please explain liberty to the millions of Iraqi refugees and to
the people who are under constant threat of continued civil war
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Kenneth
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious attack
ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now McCain is
campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political flip-flop of all
time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to use the armed forces
for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"


At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of Conservativism!
Back to top
Kenneth
Guest






PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Son of Darwin <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.238879c9b0ccaf1698ba92@news.individual.net:

Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now
McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political
flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to
use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.


We all know that Iraq wasn't an exercise in "social engineering", it was an

exercise in Liberty!
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Kenneth
Guest






PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Son of Darwin <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.23888348c6790de298ba97@news.individual.net:

Son of Darwin <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote:
Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.238879c9b0ccaf1698ba92@news.individual.net:

Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B56E0CEC8829biologicalentitycold@85.214.105.209...

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland.
Now McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate
political flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's
pledge never to use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.


We all know that Iraq wasn't an exercise in "social engineering", it
was an exercise in Liberty!

If it was, it failed miserably.


Aye. That's true. And the point of my remark as well.



Say! Why did the greatest American political scientists decide that Iraq
needed a Parliamentary Democracy like Canada and the UK, and not to be a
Republic, like France and the United States of America?


Anyone know?
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RichTravsky
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion: Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate Majority? Reply with quote

Kenneth wrote:
Quote:
Son of Darwin <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote:
Kenneth <kennethjones@yahoo.com> wrote in
Lubow <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote:
"Son of Darwin" <biological-entity@coldmail.com> wrote in message

1) McCain once called Chambliss disgusting for running vicious
attack ads against a triple amputee and veteran, Max Cleeland. Now
McCain is campaigning for him? This may be the ultimate political
flip-flop of all time topping even George W. Bush's pledge never to
use the armed forces for nation building.

Is that remark of McCain's available on the net?

"Nation Building?"

At least that's not like "liberal social engineering"

We will have nothing of that in our new, clear world of
Conservativism!

Conservativism is dead.


We all know that Iraq wasn't an exercise in "social engineering", it was an
exercise in Liberty!

That was the excuse given after no WMDs were found (which we knew weren't there as
far back as 2001).

RT
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