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This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_workers_make_deal_on_owed_ot
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deal with factory workers who had no papers are
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
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"The former owner of a New Bedford leather goods factory raided by
immigration officials early last year has settled a class-action
lawsuit, agreeing to pay $850,000 to former employees who worked up to
16 hours a day but weren't paid overtime.
"The lawsuit alleged that Michael Bianco Inc. set up a sham
corporation, Front Line Defense Inc., to avoid paying overtime wages
to employees, many of whom were illegal immigrants."
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
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"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
"At the news conference in downtown Boston yesterday, several former
employees, speaking Spanish and using a translator, discussed the
settlement. The employees declined to comment on their immigration
status.
"Elsy Hernandez said she often worked 14-hour days, six days a week.
"There were weeks when I would even work 16 hours a day but would not
get any payment for overtime," she said. "Now in New Bedford, a lot of
employers from different companies are learning and being cautious,
because a lot of them were doing the same. Now they are paying better
and paying overtime." Hernandez said she worked at the factory for
almost four years and earned $7.25 an hour. She said she will send a
significant amount of her overtime check to her family in her
homeland."
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 1:49 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w....
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
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If the undocumented workers were having some sort of circus show where
the big attraction was that they (gasp!) became employed despite being
illegally in the country, then you would be right. They should not be
allowed to profit by bragging that they beat the system. People in
death row cannot profit from a book depicting their crime, but they
can get any other type of income.
In all other cases, they are entitled to their hard earned money.
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 1:48 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
| Quote: | Great. Now the government should confiscate everything that these
CRIMINAL SCUM have accumulated, put their asses on a chain gang for
six months, then throw their worthless butts back across the border
with nothing but the clothes on their backs.
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Granted, the above is the type of "justice" that prevails is the
reservations where indians administer their own kind of judicial
principles. Outside them, in the civilized word, we have different,
substantially more humane customs.
I am sure that KKK and whitetrashlanders would like your type of
punishments, if we allowed them to dispense it, that is.
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 5:25 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 19, 1:49 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w....
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality..
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
If the undocumented workers were having some sort of circus show where
the big attraction was that they (gasp!) became employed despite being
illegally in the country, then you would be right. They should not be
allowed to profit by bragging that they beat the system. People in
death row cannot profit from a book depicting their crime, but they
can get any other type of income.
In all other cases, they are entitled to their hard earned money.
-Ramon
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Additionally, if Uncle Sam went after their money, many of the
immigrants would go bankrupt, without money to return to Mexico or
take care of their kids. Guess who would have too foot their bill?
That's right, we the taxpayers.
Selling drugs is an intrinsically illegal activity, and that's why
their earnings, cars and homes are confiscated.
Cleaning pools or cutting grass while being undocumented is equivalent
as not having a city permit. The work done is valuable and desirable
for society. The money earned belongs to the worker. All courts agree
with me on this one.
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 6:06 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:45:07 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 5:25 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:49 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
If the undocumented workers were having some sort of circus show where
the big attraction was that they (gasp!) became employed despite being
illegally in the country, then you would be right. They should not be
allowed to profit by bragging that they beat the system. People in
death row cannot profit from a book depicting their crime, but they
can get any other type of income.
In all other cases, they are entitled to their hard earned money.
-Ramon
Additionally, if Uncle Sam went after their money, many of the
immigrants would go bankrupt, without money to return to Mexico or
take care of their kids. Guess who would have too foot their bill?
That's right, we the taxpayers.
I wish that you would stop pretending to be a citizen, you lying sack
of shit.
Selling drugs is an intrinsically illegal activity, and that's why
their earnings, cars and homes are confiscated.
Simply BEING in this country for these maggots is and intrinsically
illegal activity
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The undocumented workers are not being paid for being in the country.
Some are being paid for taking care of rooms in hotels, others for
picking fruits, others for building homes, babysitting, etc.
If you find one illegal immigrant who is being paid for being an
illegal immigrant, you are hereby authorized to confiscate his
earnings and distribute them in your trailer park.
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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The same principle as owing back taxes applies here.
Find me case law that says that every dollar earned by a person after
being late or having unpaid taxes is illegitimate and should be
confiscated...
Find me that, and I will agree that the hard earned income of the
undocumented workers should be confiscated.
Furthermore, the workers should be awarded:
- compensatory damages
- punitive damages
Independently of their immigration status.
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 6:50 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
| Quote: | Actually, I'd rather confiscate your cojones with a dull knife and
then make you eat them, vermin.
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Hold it right there! No trates de pasar gato por liebre! The deal we
have is that you will send over one of your great granddaughters,
donning an indian chief headdress (like Cher, very Hiawatha-like) and
she would try to accomplish the aforementioned deed.
Nobody said I would have to face you!
-Ramon |
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Ramon F Herrera
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Nov 19, 6:56 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:55:18 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
The same principle as owing back taxes applies here.
Find me case law that says that every dollar earned by a person after
being late or having unpaid taxes is illegitimate and should be
confiscated...
Find me that, and I will agree that the hard earned income of the
undocumented workers should be confiscated.
Nobody gives a damn what you think about the situation, FOREIGN
CRIMINAL TRASH.
Furthermore, the workers should be awarded:
- compensatory damages
- punitive damages
Independently of their immigration status.
Great. More money to be confiscated under RICO.
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By definition, the RICO statue applies to rich criminals. The workers
in question are POBRE.
-Ramon |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:48:42 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
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This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_workers_make_deal_on_owed_ot
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deal with factory workers who had no papers are
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
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Great. Now the government should confiscate everything that these
CRIMINAL SCUM have accumulated, put their asses on a chain gang for
six months, then throw their worthless butts back across the border
with nothing but the clothes on their backs. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
<ramon@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
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Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
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"At the news conference in downtown Boston yesterday, several former
employees, speaking Spanish and using a translator, discussed the
settlement. The employees declined to comment on their immigration
status.
"Elsy Hernandez said she often worked 14-hour days, six days a week.
"There were weeks when I would even work 16 hours a day but would not
get any payment for overtime," she said. "Now in New Bedford, a lot of
employers from different companies are learning and being cautious,
because a lot of them were doing the same. Now they are paying better
and paying overtime." Hernandez said she worked at the factory for
almost four years and earned $7.25 an hour. She said she will send a
significant amount of her overtime check to her family in her
homeland."
-Ramon |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:25:23 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
<ramon@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 19, 1:49 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
If the undocumented workers were having some sort of circus show where
the big attraction was that they (gasp!) became employed despite being
illegally in the country, then you would be right. They should not be
allowed to profit by bragging that they beat the system. People in
death row cannot profit from a book depicting their crime, but they
can get any other type of income.
In all other cases, they are entitled to their hard earned money.s
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I'm not surprised that a criminal foreigner like you supports your
fellow parasites.
Run along, vermin.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
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| Quote: | On Nov 19, 1:48 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
Great. Now the government should confiscate everything that these
CRIMINAL SCUM have accumulated, put their asses on a chain gang for
six months, then throw their worthless butts back across the border
with nothing but the clothes on their backs.
Granted, the above is the type of "justice" that prevails is the
reservations where indians administer their own kind of judicial
principles. Outside them, in the civilized word, we have different,
substantially more humane customs.
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What's with this "we", CRIMINAL FOREIGN SCUM?
| Quote: | I am sure that KKK and whitetrashlanders would like your type of
punishments, if we allowed them to dispense it, that is.
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Foreign trash like you have nothing to say about it, little Ramon.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Detained immigrant workers will get almost $1M in overti |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:45:07 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
<ramon@conexus.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 19, 5:25 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:49 pm, br...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:03 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:48 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
This is what I call a fair and wonderful country - seriously. No
wonder so many of us are leaving countries south of the Rio Grande for
the Land of Opportunity.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/11/19/raided_factory_w...
http://tinyurl.com/5f3qwq
In Latin America, if you get involved in a car accident and don't have
a valid driver's license, you automatically lose the collision case.
In the USA, the case is judged on its own merits, either party may
win, and the party with the invalid license simply pays a fine.
The case in question deals with factory workers who had no papers and
were being exploited by the factory owners. A class-action lawsuit
brought justice to the workers.
That goes to show that in this country *everyone* has rights, even
those immigrants who are here in a status of (temporary?) illegality.
-RFH
"Getting the money to the workers, many of whom have been deported,
will be the responsibility of the Department of Labor and Greater
Boston Legal Services.
Why? It's a principle that criminals shouldh't be allowed to profit by
their actions. The very act of working here is a criminal act by these
vermin.
If the undocumented workers were having some sort of circus show where
the big attraction was that they (gasp!) became employed despite being
illegally in the country, then you would be right. They should not be
allowed to profit by bragging that they beat the system. People in
death row cannot profit from a book depicting their crime, but they
can get any other type of income.
In all other cases, they are entitled to their hard earned money.
-Ramon
Additionally, if Uncle Sam went after their money, many of the
immigrants would go bankrupt, without money to return to Mexico or
take care of their kids. Guess who would have too foot their bill?
That's right, we the taxpayers.
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I wish that you would stop pretending to be a citizen, you lying sack
of shit.
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Selling drugs is an intrinsically illegal activity, and that's why
their earnings, cars and homes are confiscated.
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Simply BEING in this country for these maggots is and intrinsically
illegal activity, and that's why their earings, cars, and homes should
be confiscated.
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Cleaning pools or cutting grass while being undocumented is equivalent
as not having a city permit. The work done is valuable and desirable
for society. The money earned belongs to the worker. All courts agree
with me on this one.
-Ramon
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