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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested they
will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
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Royal Marines shot two the other week.
The other six captured have been delivered to Kenya for trial.
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William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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William Black wrote:
| Quote: | "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested they
will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
Royal Marines shot two the other week.
The other six captured have been delivered to Kenya for trial.
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Clearly the Somalis were not told their Rights.
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William Black
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | William Black wrote:
"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested
they will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
Royal Marines shot two the other week.
The other six captured have been delivered to Kenya for trial.
Clearly the Somalis were not told their Rights.
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They had the right not to shoot at Royal Marines.
They chose not to exercise that right.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea. |
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Roger Dewhurst
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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William Black wrote:
| Quote: | "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good against
half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
It's illegal to do so.
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So what? Who is going to prosecute them?
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The Declaration of Paris in eighteen fifty something says so.
If you arm your ship you're a pirate...
A few rifles and the odd pistol only.
Look, these guys just took a super tanker, they don't even put a pilot on
them from an open boat, it tends to be 'access by helicopter only' when
they're at sea.
The pirates been reportedly spending a reasonable proportion of their
$100,000,000 income last year on the latest toys for shooting up shipping
from an open boat and are well past the 'being scared off by a bloke with a
rifle on the bridge wing' stage.
It seems they have some very sophisticated technology indeed.
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If the stanchions and rails were wrapped with razor wire the pirates
would be slowed down enough to be dealt with by two men with pump action
shotguns loaded with SG.
A concrete block dropped from the deck of a tanker will do a fair amount
of damage to a boat with a boarding crew.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
| Quote: | FACE wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:10 +0000 in alt.politics.immigration, Dirk
Bruere
at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for
all to
see:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catnum=0
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother
ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as
the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release
of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters
between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown
bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships. <more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal
Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world
insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
I agree. The "powers" of the world seem incapable of standing up to a
ragtag bunch of pirates. Maybe the people about to be hijacked and
kidnapped could. So I hear, the crew of the Saudi tanker have been
'removed' from the ship and are being held for $10 million ransom.
Not sure if it was this article, but somewhere today i read/heard that
eight
ships have been hijacked in that area in a week.
In the bad ole 19th century, I believe that your country had some well
defined -- and executed -- protocols concerning piracy on the high
seas --
William Kidd spent a post-mortem while suspended above the mouth of the
Thames....
These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested
they will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
There is no need to kill them. Just ram the mother ship and leave a |
blood trail behind the ramming ship. The sharks will ensure that there
are no survivors. |
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Roger Dewhurst
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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William Black wrote:
| Quote: | "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested they
will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
Royal Marines shot two the other week.
The other six captured have been delivered to Kenya for trial.
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There should not be any prisoners.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:16:59 -0000, "William Black"
<william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good against
half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
It's illegal to do so.
The Declaration of Paris in eighteen fifty something says so.
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Only if the country is a signatory, and there's nothing to prevent a
nation from unilaterally ignoring the treaty and allowing any ship
registered under their flag to be armed with everything from missiles
down to small arms. If necessary, they can issue Letters of Marque
authorizing the civilian ships to engage and destroy any craft
attacking them.
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If you arm your ship you're a pirate...
A few rifles and the odd pistol only.
Look, these guys just took a super tanker, they don't even put a pilot on
them from an open boat, it tends to be 'access by helicopter only' when
they're at sea.
The pirates been reportedly spending a reasonable proportion of their
$100,000,000 income last year on the latest toys for shooting up shipping
from an open boat and are well past the 'being scared off by a bloke with a
rifle on the bridge wing' stage.
It seems they have some very sophisticated technology indeed. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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Ramon F Herrera wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 19, 2:31 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catn...
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships.
more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5- Our podcasts on weird stuff
Have you folks considered that the pirates had help from the inside?
Just speculating...
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In which case a team of mercs would be doubly effective
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Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:52:29 +1300, Roger Dewhurst
<dewhurst@wave.co.nz> wrote:
| Quote: | Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
FACE wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:10 +0000 in alt.politics.immigration, Dirk
Bruere
at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for
all to
see:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catnum=0
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother
ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as
the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release
of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters
between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown
bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships. <more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal
Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world
insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
I agree. The "powers" of the world seem incapable of standing up to a
ragtag bunch of pirates. Maybe the people about to be hijacked and
kidnapped could. So I hear, the crew of the Saudi tanker have been
'removed' from the ship and are being held for $10 million ransom.
Not sure if it was this article, but somewhere today i read/heard that
eight
ships have been hijacked in that area in a week.
In the bad ole 19th century, I believe that your country had some well
defined -- and executed -- protocols concerning piracy on the high
seas --
William Kidd spent a post-mortem while suspended above the mouth of the
Thames....
These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested
they will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
There is no need to kill them. Just ram the mother ship and leave a
blood trail behind the ramming ship. The sharks will ensure that there
are no survivors.
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Whatever happened to the good old days of tieing them to the yard arm
or keel hauling them? Nothing is any fun anymore. :-(
Regards
§tarkiller©
"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said.
"We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:50:19 -0600 in alt.politics.immigration, §tarkiller©
<NoSpamSKS_SKanz@hotmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for all to
see:
| Quote: | On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:52:29 +1300, Roger Dewhurst
dewhurst@wave.co.nz> wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
FACE wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:10 +0000 in alt.politics.immigration, Dirk
Bruere
at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for
all to
see:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catnum=0
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother
ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as
the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release
of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters
between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown
bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships. <more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal
Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world
insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
I agree. The "powers" of the world seem incapable of standing up to a
ragtag bunch of pirates. Maybe the people about to be hijacked and
kidnapped could. So I hear, the crew of the Saudi tanker have been
'removed' from the ship and are being held for $10 million ransom.
Not sure if it was this article, but somewhere today i read/heard that
eight
ships have been hijacked in that area in a week.
In the bad ole 19th century, I believe that your country had some well
defined -- and executed -- protocols concerning piracy on the high
seas --
William Kidd spent a post-mortem while suspended above the mouth of the
Thames....
These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested
they will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
There is no need to kill them. Just ram the mother ship and leave a
blood trail behind the ramming ship. The sharks will ensure that there
are no survivors.
Whatever happened to the good old days of tieing them to the yard arm
or keel hauling them? Nothing is any fun anymore. :-(
Regards
§tarkiller©
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Hi Starkiller,
Since I mentioned Captain Kidds' gibbetting, i backchecked it later for
details......
http://books.google.com/books?id=f_cfLLRUXzUC&pg=PA392&lpg=PA392&dq=tide+wash+over+them+3++times&source=web&ots=F_Qmi4Axbi&sig=ZiGixinAjasMrFmYq5uUt4tRIg0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=27&ct=result#PPA391,M1
From hanging twice at Execution Dock to the final hanging in chains at
Tilbury -- ending with "For years afterward...could see him there swaying in
the breezes, the Admiralty's stark warning to anyone contemplating a merry
life of piracy".
Quite a story!
I thought that they had tarred the body, but if so, it is not mentioned in
this account.
(I wonder how many survivors of keel hauling there were....not many, i bet.)
FACE
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"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said.
"We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:00:28 -0500, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:50:19 -0600 in alt.politics.immigration, §tarkiller©
NoSpamSKS_SKanz@hotmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for all to
see:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:52:29 +1300, Roger Dewhurst
dewhurst@wave.co.nz> wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
FACE wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:10 +0000 in alt.politics.immigration, Dirk
Bruere
at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for
all to
see:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catnum=0
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother
ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as
the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release
of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters
between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown
bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships. <more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal
Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world
insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
I agree. The "powers" of the world seem incapable of standing up to a
ragtag bunch of pirates. Maybe the people about to be hijacked and
kidnapped could. So I hear, the crew of the Saudi tanker have been
'removed' from the ship and are being held for $10 million ransom.
Not sure if it was this article, but somewhere today i read/heard that
eight
ships have been hijacked in that area in a week.
In the bad ole 19th century, I believe that your country had some well
defined -- and executed -- protocols concerning piracy on the high
seas --
William Kidd spent a post-mortem while suspended above the mouth of the
Thames....
These day we aren't allowed to kill pirates, and if they are arrested
they will claim political asylum and we couldn't possibly send them back
somewhere as bad as Somalia because it would breach their Human Rights.
The only alternative would be to give them free housing and social
security benefits in Britain forever - and wait for them to invite their
extended families to stay as well.
There is no need to kill them. Just ram the mother ship and leave a
blood trail behind the ramming ship. The sharks will ensure that there
are no survivors.
Whatever happened to the good old days of tieing them to the yard arm
or keel hauling them? Nothing is any fun anymore. :-(
Regards
§tarkiller©
Hi Starkiller,
Since I mentioned Captain Kidds' gibbetting, i backchecked it later for
details......
http://books.google.com/books?id=f_cfLLRUXzUC&pg=PA392&lpg=PA392&dq=tide+wash+over+them+3++times&source=web&ots=F_Qmi4Axbi&sig=ZiGixinAjasMrFmYq5uUt4tRIg0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=27&ct=result#PPA391,M1
From hanging twice at Execution Dock to the final hanging in chains at
Tilbury -- ending with "For years afterward...could see him there swaying in
the breezes, the Admiralty's stark warning to anyone contemplating a merry
life of piracy".
Quite a story!
I thought that they had tarred the body, but if so, it is not mentioned in
this account.
(I wonder how many survivors of keel hauling there were....not many, i bet.)
FACE
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It definitely makes waterboarding look like a walk in the park. :-)
Regards
§tarkiller©
'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good against
half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
It's illegal to do so.
The Declaration of Paris in eighteen fifty something says so.
If you arm your ship you're a pirate...
A few rifles and the odd pistol only.
Look, these guys just took a super tanker, they don't even put a pilot on
them from an open boat, it tends to be 'access by helicopter only' when
they're at sea.
The pirates been reportedly spending a reasonable proportion of their
$100,000,000 income last year on the latest toys for shooting up shipping
from an open boat and are well past the 'being scared off by a bloke with
a rifle on the bridge wing' stage.
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HOw about a brace of 50 caliber machine guns loaded w/incendiary/tracer
rounds?
That would put a largest hole in any of the boats they seem to be currently
operating.
| Quote: | It seems they have some very sophisticated technology indeed.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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"FACE" <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:10 +0000 in alt.politics.immigration, Dirk
Bruere
at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> in glistered weave wrote large for all
to
see:
FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catnum=0
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother ship"
and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release of
their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters between
the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown
bolder
and more violent-most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships.
more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal Navy
of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world
insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
I agree. The "powers" of the world seem incapable of standing up to a
ragtag bunch of pirates. Maybe the people about to be hijacked and
kidnapped could. So I hear, the crew of the Saudi tanker have been
'removed' from the ship and are being held for $10 million ransom.
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Give me a WW2 PT boat loaded w/50 caliber machine guns and some
modern ballistic armor -- that'll give the pirates a party they'll remember.
| Quote: | Not sure if it was this article, but somewhere today i read/heard that
eight
ships have been hijacked in that area in a week.
In the bad ole 19th century, I believe that your country had some well
defined -- and executed -- protocols concerning piracy on the high seas --
William Kidd spent a post-mortem while suspended above the mouth of the
Thames....
FACE
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Whatever happened to summary execution of pirates on the high seas? Hanging
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:f72e3f61-f22d-489b-89fb-a432efb7559b@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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Have you folks considered that the pirates had help from the inside?
Just speculating...
-Ramon
# Was thinking that myself. How any captain would let wogs climb up the
side of his ship... and not pour boiling water on them from the galley
stove, is beyond comprehension. You have to have assistence to get onboard
a ship from a rope-ladder...something I know about from experience. Someone
has to let the rope ladder down to start with...no ladder, no entrance.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Re: AP describes the cojones of the Indian Navy........."Ind |
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On 19 Nov, 20:31, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | FACE wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I507G0&show_article=1&catn...
Indian navy sinks suspected pirate 'mother ship'
Nov 19 01:38 PM US/Eastern
By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer
NEW DELHI (AP) - The Indian navy sank a suspected pirate "mother ship" and
chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, as the
owners of a seized Saudi oil supertanker negotiated for the release of their
vessel and its $100 million cargo.
A multinational naval force has increased patrols in the waters between the
Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa, where pirates have grown bolder
and more violent—most recently seizing Thai and Iranian ships.
more
Good thing it was not the US Navy coming across this...or the Royal Navy of
the UK -- nothing would have been done...............
Reminds me of something I heard a while back that a third world insurgency
can only be defeated by a third world force.
FACE
I don't understand why ships don't hire some mercenary teams for the
passage. It's not as if a few speedboats are going to be any good
against half a dozen men with automatic rifles on a steel ship.
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You don't even need to do that. As I sposted the other day, a Swedish
ship avoided capture by simply not stopping, The only way these jokers
can get on board a big vessel is if someone actively helps them. 25
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