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The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=76387C1D-8A30-45C6-BF95-C37F35F0449D
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
http://www.ideachannel.tv/
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Nov 18, 8:36�am, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=76387C1D-8A30-45C....
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/http://www.ideachannel.tv/http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
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Republicans vs. Democrats is a sham. Both are owned outright by the
same people. I've lived long enough and been awake long enough to
know that no significant change takes place on change of
administrations. We are led in the direction of destruction or our
economy, our liberty, and our national sovereignty by both parties.
We have only one ruling party in the United States, and that party has
run the country from FDR to GWB. I tried to show some of the power
they have in my americasenemies blog. There is a lot of info there,
and unless you have an attention span greater than a gnat's, I don't
recommend you read it.
Rick
18th Century Liberal
21st Century Reactionary
http://PhreedomPhan-lostliberty.blogspot.com
http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/ |
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PhreedomPhan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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| Quote: | Congress is trying to save capitalism from it own
vices of boom and bust <-Sid9 |
That's what we were told the Federal Reserve was created for and it
was followed by the longest depression in this country's history. The
regulations and controls that were then installed kept us in that
depression until WWII pulled us out.
There are many people who complain that Big Business controls the
government and I agree. What I don't agree with is their proposed
solution. They usually suggest that the answer is to give Congress
more power to control Big Business. Their logic escapes me. If Big
Business controls the government and you give more power to
government, aren't you giving more power to Big Business to destroy
all competition and thereby channel all wealth and power into their
hands? That's exactly what I've seen happening all of my adult life.
Jefferson had the answer 200 years ago. Take away the power of the
banks to issue money. Put it back into the hands of Congress and the
people where it belongs. A good source of the history of bank
manipulation is Yamaguchy.netfirms.com. The site has a large
collection of ebooks on money and banking written at a time when the
banks were forced to seek charter renewal every 10 to 20 years. This
brought the issue into the public eye. The Federal Reserve Act gave
them control in virtual perpetuity and since then, the banks have slid
from under the vision of the average American.
Rick
18th Century Liberal
21st Century Reactionary
http://PhreedomPhan-lostliberty.blogspot.com
http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/ |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On 18 Nov., 14:36, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
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Is this what you say when new baseball and football stadiums are built
with tax-payers money? |
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Sid9
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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<obamao.sux.donki.dixsss@gmail.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | The Democrats seem to have found the perfect
strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan
is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism
(free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic
activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=76387C1D-8A30-45C6-BF95-C37F35F0449D
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
http://www.ideachannel.tv/
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
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Congress is trying to save capitalism from it own
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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obamao.sux.donki.dixsss@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=76387C1D-8A30-45C6-BF95-C37F35F0449D
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
http://www.ideachannel.tv/
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
Congress is trying to save capitalism from it own vices of boom and bust
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yer a wage slave, freedom is a myth. |
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mimus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:36:03 -0800, obamao.sux.donki.dixsss wrote:
| Quote: | The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
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Do you count the international petroleum cartel OPEC as an example of free
markets? what about the cartel of major lending investment-banks that just
extorted hundreds of billions of dollars from the US? do they represent
free markets? and is trade-competition between slaves (as in China) and
free labor a free market? and was it the Democrats who engineered and have
championed and champion all of the above?
Bonus question: Is plutocracy capitalism or vice-versa?
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All power and wealth to the wealthiest! anything less is class war!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.gasandoilspec.062606.pdf |
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mimus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:00:49 -0800, PhreedomPhan wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 18, 8:36�am, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=76387C1D-8A30-45C...
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/http://www.ideachannel.tv/http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
Republicans vs. Democrats is a sham. Both are owned outright by the
same people. I've lived long enough and been awake long enough to
know that no significant change takes place on change of
administrations. We are led in the direction of destruction or our
economy, our liberty, and our national sovereignty by both parties.
We have only one ruling party in the United States, and that party has
run the country from FDR to GWB. I tried to show some of the power
they have in my americasenemies blog. There is a lot of info there,
and unless you have an attention span greater than a gnat's, I don't
recommend you read it.
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You should like the .sig (from _Locked in the Cabinet_).
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We're owned by them. Business. That's where the campaign money comes
from now. In the nineteen-eighties we gave up on the little guys. We
started drinking from the same trough as the Republicans.
< Democratic House Budget Committee Chairman Marty Sabo, 1993
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.gasandoilspec.062606.pdf |
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mimus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:44:57 -0500, Sid9 wrote:
| Quote: | obamao.sux.donki.dixsss@gmail.com> wrote in
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The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
Congress is trying to save capitalism from it own vices of boom and bust
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The enemies of capitalism on both left and right quite deliberately
confound it with plutocracy (well, OK, a lot of the dolts on both sides
have probably never thought about differentiating the two).
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Conservatism = plutocracy + theocracy + hypocrisy
Liberalism = plutocracy + psychosociocracy + hypocrisy
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.gasandoilspec.062606.pdf |
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mimus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:47:37 -0800, jaypee65 wrote:
| Quote: | On 18 Nov., 14:36, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
Is this what you say when new baseball and football stadiums are built
with tax-payers money?
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I really hate it when those goddam Commies build libraries . . . .
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Socialism for everyone, not just the wealthiest!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.gasandoilspec.062606.pdf |
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Michael Coburn
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:15:55 -0800, PhreedomPhan wrote:
| Quote: | Congress is trying to save capitalism from it own
vices of boom and bust <-Sid9
That's what we were told the Federal Reserve was created for and it was
followed by the longest depression in this country's history. The
regulations and controls that were then installed kept us in that
depression until WWII pulled us out.
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There was also this minor inconvenience called the "Dust Bowl" and lots
of stupid mistakes by the Fed of the day.
| Quote: | There are many people who complain that Big Business controls the
government and I agree. What I don't agree with is their proposed
solution. They usually suggest that the answer is to give Congress more
power to control Big Business. Their logic escapes me. If Big Business
controls the government and you give more power to government, aren't
you giving more power to Big Business to destroy all competition and
thereby channel all wealth and power into their hands? That's exactly
what I've seen happening all of my adult life.
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So. Expand the House of Representatives and fix the problem by giving
control to the people.
| Quote: | Jefferson had the answer 200 years ago. Take away the power of the
banks to issue money. Put it back into the hands of Congress and the
people where it belongs. A good source of the history of bank
manipulation is Yamaguchy.netfirms.com. The site has a large collection
of ebooks on money and banking written at a time when the banks were
forced to seek charter renewal every 10 to 20 years. This brought the
issue into the public eye. The Federal Reserve Act gave them control in
virtual perpetuity and since then, the banks have slid from under the
vision of the average American.
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There is little wrong with the current system that is not a result of
Republican deregulation. Instead of reading how the banking system
worked prior to 1973, you might look at how it works now:
http://www.gate.net/~mosler/frame001.htm |
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Michael Coburn
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:42:38 -0500, mimus wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:36:03 -0800, obamao.sux.donki.dixsss wrote:
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense of
your freedom]
Do you count the international petroleum cartel OPEC as an example of
free markets? what about the cartel of major lending investment-banks
that just extorted hundreds of billions of dollars from the US? do they
represent free markets? and is trade-competition between slaves (as in
China) and free labor a free market? and was it the Democrats who
engineered and have championed and champion all of the above?
Bonus question: Is plutocracy capitalism or vice-versa?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democracy
There is room for "capitalism" that is actually capitalism. |
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mimus
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:46:40 +0000, Michael Coburn wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:42:38 -0500, mimus wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:36:03 -0800, obamao.sux.donki.dixsss wrote:
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense of
your freedom]
Do you count the international petroleum cartel OPEC as an example of
free markets? what about the cartel of major lending investment-banks
that just extorted hundreds of billions of dollars from the US? do they
represent free markets? and is trade-competition between slaves (as in
China) and free labor a free market? and was it the Democrats who
engineered and have championed and champion all of the above?
Bonus question: Is plutocracy capitalism or vice-versa?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democracy
There is room for "capitalism" that is actually capitalism.
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Not according to the plutocrats and Commies.
(And the flacks 'n' dupes of each.)
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All power and wealth to the wealthiest! anything less is class war!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.gasandoilspec.062606.pdf |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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<obamao.sux.donki.dixsss@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]
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It's been that way for 30 years now in the Family Kourts. When you get
divorced, you automatically come under full government control and they take
60% of your wages with no accountability on how it is used.
All single Fathers and divorced Dads are now second class citizens and the
government does what it pleases with you.
We have committed no crime, but we are forced to pay a large fine every
month!!!!!! |
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PhreedomPhan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: Re: A Brave New America |
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-> There was also this minor inconvenience called the "Dust Bowl" and
lots
of stupid mistakes by the Fed of the day. <-Michael
Please! Don't call them stupid. It makes them cry all the way to the
bank with our money.
-> So. �Expand the House of Representatives and fix the problem by
giving control to the people. <-Michael
No. All you do then is make them buy more Congressmen. The power
will still reside in Washington under the watchful eye of the
corporate lobbyists. Giving control to the people is not as easy as
you make it sound.
| Quote: | There is little wrong with the current system that is not a result of
Republican deregulation. �Instead of reading how the banking system |
worked prior to 1973, you might look at how it works now:
Nothing wrong that isn't the result of Republican deregulation? Good
one! I laughed so hard my ribs hurt.
Ignore what happened before 1973? Unfortunately, that's the way most
people feel. No matter how painful. No matter the economic privation
they may endure, they seem to think it's easier to repeat history than
learn from it.
Rick
18th Century Liberal
21st Century Reactionary
http://PhreedomPhan-lostliberty.blogspot.com
http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/ |
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